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- designer4rent0
nice work, number as a logo. and 3 with the type usage.
- ender790
i guess i'm a little late jumping in on this thread. i like 1 alternate. the shapes at the bottom do double duty as leaves/"jesus fish" (that's what i see anyways). nice work, gramme.
- gramme0
Thanks all for the good feedback and nice words. I'll implement some of these suggestions after I get my bosses' feedback. Stay tuned...
cheers
- letters20
No. 1. Alternate rendering adds strong detailing (the devil is in the details!). Understates the cross, but likely that all the contexts it will be in will have some spiritual/church reference (full name, etc.)
Only criticism there is to explore the typography to lock-up with it further. The serif you're using makes it a bit stodgy. In addition, you're only weaking the graphic strength of the mark by placing it in a containing shape.
Good work on that first version! Don't present anything else to the client - go with one, strong recommendation and you'll win it.
- letters20
some inspiration as well: http://www.mgrear.com/
- JackRyan0
Well, I wont even tell you which one I like...you probably already know. Your work is really good, your church should be extremely happy with any of your options. I've never seen so much thought being put into a projects such as this. It received some criticism...but where is the crit for Gaudi, for Le Corbusier, for Wright? Many designers do their arguably best work for the Lord.
- TaylorB0
Very good stuff. really like how you laced the trinity symbol with the split T... so much one could draw from this logo. I see a group of people rooted into a core christian belief... Nice
Question, does the church have a website? I'd like to see what they've had thus far.
how old is the church?
- gramme0
letters, is there a typeface you would suggest? I searched high and low and prefer Scotch Romans, which are a bit stiff by design, being originally cut for steel type...BTW, the containing shape is an uppercase O, perhaps you already picked up on that...
This was one face that I looked at but don't own:
- gramme0
Taylor, the church is 15 years old. The building is very classic red brick/high white steeple. Everything inside is offwhite or beige (ick) and burgundy. Pretty traditional.
We are redesigning their site this summer after the logo is finalized. This is what they have now. It's awful:
- kelpie0
1e or 2d for me, and I'm scottish and my uncle's a minister so my vote counts triple.
they're really nice, great type as per usual - the later ones in san serif I think don't fit at all. My gran would turn in her grave if she even contemplated a presbyterian church using a san serif ;)
- gramme0
BTW letters2, I don't know if I've seen your site before. Excellent work, especially the identity stuff (The Kinfo logo gave me that "why didn't I think of that" moment).
:)
- indeedy, letters identity work is fab, really great... publication, not so much my thing though...neue75_bold
- gramme0
*bump for letters2
- jevad0
wat
- letters20
Hey gramme, I'm happy to suggest a few faces to explore.
Escrow:
http://www.fontbureau.com/fonts/…
For a scotch roman, I've recently been coveting highsmith's Escrow as it balances the old/new in a serif with great tensions. Might bring the formal/friendly mix you need.Chronicle:
http://www.typography.com/fonts/…
This is kind of a new-wave scotch in a way, but its got character.Feijoa:
http://vllg.com/KLIM/Feijoa/mudT…
This Kris Sowersby face is a bit more organic, round, and could carry your leaves well. It breaks from the rigid "T" you're using, but you could try swapping it out for one in this family.Lineare:
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/ert…
Eduardo Tunni's face heads off in another direction, certainly still a text face, but with different/newer quirks than the others.Or you could go for good contrast, and work with a san serif to see if you can build a different kind of relationship. Either way, I would definitely encourage using a titling case, rather than all-caps, as it will help with legibility and also perhaps undo that top button that keeps it looking as if its wound a bit tight.
Thanks for the compliment :)
Much luck! happy to have another look if you do any revising.- Feloja is nice.
neverliked Linera, there are better opportunitiesmoamoa
- Feloja is nice.
- gramme0
Thx letters!
For Scotch Romans, I still prefer Mercury, which is what I used in most of the tree/trinity concepts (v. 1). Chronicle is nice, but less dramatic than Mercury imho. BTW, I did use Mercury in titling caps for a couple of those variations...
I do like Feijoa a lot. It doesn't feel Presbyterian but maybe I'm being narrow minded. Lineare feels awkward to me. Anyway, cheers for the help :)
- letters20
Feijoa doesn't feel Presbyterian...
What does that mean!?
heh ;)
- gramme0
It feels Spanish or Portuguese to me. When I think Presbyterian and how that translates typographically, I think strong, contrasty, elegant yet sturdy, and spartan. That's why I didn't even go near softer Old style faces like Bembo or Garamond that, imho, would be more suitable for say a Catholic or non-denominational church.