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- sarahfailin2
Trump hasn't tweeted about the caravan since election day. And he has barely talked about the border. How very, very intriguing.
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Mono.... u mentioned markets and that you are very privy to them and have invested into them in the last twenty years. Im still curious what merit you invested in or value. Or were you merely giving someone money promising fortune down the road like any priest. Im very curious of your actual involvement and knowledge of investment. How do you choose to invest?
- I invested money buying specific stocks and mutual funds, which I research and follow. I didn’t give a person money promising me fortune like a priest.monospaced
- I prefer to invest in companies and markets I understand, which has been very fruitful over the years.monospaced
- Wrong thread, by the way. The stock market isn’t really affected by politics much at all, unless we’re talking about oil or the federal reserve.monospaced
- I’m not religious but I’ve never heard that priests “offer fortune down the road.” Is this true or are you talking about heaven? The market isn’t like religion.monospaced
- #thermodynamicsmonospaced
- "Its been 3 weeks since my last confession, also what are your thoughts on pork belly futures?"BonSeff
- eh money and politics are quite entangled. and no reason to bump other threads on the feed. and heaven is no different con than any future bet.********
- so you research and directly make the buys? No 401K company incentivized tax deferal type programs.********
- All you. No Vanguard algos? No collective funds to hedge losses by a manager who cashes out on every high performance while you wait 40 yrs?********
- Im also curious your opinion of the gov-fed low interest rate scam that has boosted on paper the giant wealth inequality********
- Being an investor do you still think the Fed should increase rates and blow the all the asset bubbles even if it might mean you lose, lets say, 60% paper wealth********
- Since the gov is actively involved in banking and economic activity, negating free markets, broad economics actually do kind of fall into this thread********
- and im asking purely out of curiosity. a person who thinks as you do, who actively invests. how do you choose to do it, and what differentiates your motives********
- it goes beyond arm chair philosophy and tells me what you believe in by the actions you choose.********
- Oh I have a very large 401k and another retirement account as well. You don’t?monospaced
- It’s so obvious that you’re attempting to conclude that I’m somehow part of the problem by making money on the market. But you won’t be able to.monospaced
- No i don't on principle despite false incentives. Dabbled in my early 20s but it just didnt make sense. I see a greater chance said paper wealth to be used********
- towards a greater good. More than likely in the future ill be able to vote for you to give me any value in your retirement. The jist of the long con, is why are********
- penalized to extract gains or valuer as it comes. The banks and managers don't play by the same rules. So you have to ask yourself who is really being play or********
- the actual product. Who is there derelict idiot paying for a subscription to a service they know nothing about or use. Why not abuse it to make a profit********
- You did admit getting ahead with no principle is fine and dandy.********
- There is literally nothing better I could do with this money to make more money.monospaced
- ill remember that the next time you deride anyone or co. making money at any means. hopefully you do too********
- I've never done that.monospaced
- Enjoy not playing the market, keeping your pennies under your bed. I'll enjoy making money like a capitalist liberal does.monospaced
- Not that I can imagine you have much to invest in the first place, what with your atrocious writing skills and obvious 11th grade education limit.monospaced
- hehe. the rich kid trying to brow beat his idea of the poor kid. by the way a capitalist liberal is quite an oxy moron.********
- in reason at least. plenty of fools think they can have their cake and eat it too. truth is they have no principles and are absolutely selfish. MO of all humans********
- they just create weird fairytale rationale worldviews that help them sleep and get their cake and eat it too********
- so, you went through this to make the point that I'm selfish? NO SHIT ASSHOLE. never claimed otherwise. Plus, I'm eating my cake and having it!monospaced
- capitalist liberal isn't an oxymoron ... it's the fundamental makeup of the modern world, which you clearly are either too stupid or too unfortunate to be partmonospaced
- but once again, if you're entire purpose was to come to that conclusion, you are simply an asshole. The easiest way to go about this was to just ask memonospaced
- i can ask but few people are truely honest with themselves. you still aren't. but how bout this define you capitalist liberal.********
- after all its two generalizations and easy to misinterpret and you are right that I should ask. so please define it for us********
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@mono
Actually I'll just continue from the notes since I hate trying to phrase sentences based on character limits.
I'll be blunt and say if you are an active investor researching companies personally and being an active investor I'd be very surprised. You don't strike me as that guy. For 1 that guy knows computers have almost beat him to death on trading based on time and simply data analyzation (think of JP morgan analyzing every chase purchase and buying stock on ups and downs, without even thinking of the HFT stuff) Would need a spectacular play on something people missing or inside info. The game these days are large funds mitigating risks with great bandwidth and intel. Small fries take on all the risk over large amounts of time while the bigs take the profits in real-time and cash out with little risks or concern above their bonuses.
I am very skeptical if you have any investment philosophy. I think you probably look at your investment bottom line now and then, but have no idea what you are invested in. You just do the sunday church contributions to pad your future investment where you gain more with no real effort than you put in. Probably invest in many businesses with practices you disagree with, but are netting gain. Which also calls forth what you really believe in if collectively buying. Do they invest gun stocks, but you hate guns? I'm sure some funds adjusted to buy due to CA douche bag nuke comments.
One of the things that always strikes me as odds is people blast the idea of capitalism as growing monopolies. Not sure there has ever been any true monopoly except in gov, but a monopoly is simply a collected interest. And a collected interest might not be a bad thing if created through free trade. However we have banks who have increased their bottom line by taking advantage of poor tax policies. Advertising its smart, and lobbying for incentives for a third party business to push the agenda. And the people who are so critical of banking, wealth gaps and what not always seem to be of the upper middleclass participating in everything they hate. It's always funny to me.
But that is my general hypothesis and quick commentary on the behavior. I doubt you have capital or intel to make big invests on your own (like mining bitcoin outside a pool with a single computer). But you should question your actions if you really care about wealth inequality. Ask is this investment, and others passive collective investing, doing anything positive. If it was not incentivized would you even do it? Even realizing the life of typical 401k/IRA is still very beta dotcom stage in that it hasn't existed for a single lifespan.... Just stuff to think about as far as money and political activism goes.
- oh yea. and i think if you take away any deferment or tax adjustments you'd see so much less investment********
- slowing boom and bust and also helping the wealth inequality. especially if you maintain interest rates. huge fuck you to savers when lowered. it would reward********
- it would reward those eligible by being truely involved.... but there is geo political forces. hell jefferson preferred humble farming over growth.********
- my methods might get us wiped off the map or demoted to a african country. our bullshit helps with our status as a nation.... so who knows... artifical growth********
- works great as the music is playing. I just can't help but think the music is going to stop on us within the next 5-20 years.********
- AND on the #thermodynamics... again its about entrophy of systems. if you think of cancer in a systems a few bad cells are not an issue. its when they mono********
- OPALIZE or win majority rule and start destroying the system from within. What type of gov can be the most effectively cancerous? The one that oversees the********
- most. The idea of capitalism is in a organic system is having many free cells that only perform through NATURAL incentives and create large organs that help the********
- whole. Hell if anyone believes in darwinian systems that evolved us as a greater species, must believe in free markets as the same methodology as survival of********
- fittest. however Consumerism and our filed of ADVERTISING has changed a lot of what is seen as common sense or herd logic. Say our profession has done********
- little for progress except as help enslave people as consumer whores and helped misconstrue the ideology of what capitalism is.********
- AND still kills me people who hate capitalism and monopoly choose A SINGLE monopoly of government to run everything. asinine********
- Great trying to you againFax_Benson
- TalkingFax_Benson
- What is your point again?monospaced
- That I’m not a day trader? That’s correct. I have a full time job and a family. Why do you care? I don’t know.monospaced
- I have never in my entire life claimed that my investments align with any sense of politics or morality. You’re making that assumption.monospaced
- Seems like you just want to lecture people about how investing is somehow corrupt. Is that why you don’t do it?monospaced
- And now you’ve gone from thermodynamics to biology. Hilarious.monospaced
- I’m not a political activist. I’m not active in politics at all. Not even a little. My motives for investing are to make money it works. Like a normal person.monospaced
- as much as i figured mono. nothing more honest than admitting personal greed backed by 0 principles. thanks********
- but it is naive thinking that kind of behavior doesn't create everything you have strong opinion against. something to think about********
- You’re wrong. #thermodynamicsmonospaced
- #imright. Old dogs cant learn new tricks or facts. But thank you. your comments on actions have without a doubt helped prove my hypothesis of u********
- the fact that you are attempting to make a hypothesis about me at all is grade a asshole, and you're failing miserably at your proofmonospaced
- im an asshole because I have a hypothesis? i cant comment on failing proof considering you didn't submit any reason for failing.********
- again when making such statements you need to provide reasons for said conclusions. not just blind conclusions. shits 101 on middle school lvl********
- but does not surprise me much. you probably believe most conculsive opinion without regard to what its based on********
- ie probably measures of climate change and probably thing humans can stop climate change in its tracks if only they do enough of X Y or Z********
- because some dumb kid at a college needs to confirm future funding. while disregarding the nature of change. The simple fact we are nature********
- Our growth is change. Perhaps our cycle is part of the larger picture of nature where as we are no better than degrading biomass. Change is a constant********
- but i digress. I just think you are a bit of a simpleton buddy. and i say buddy because i don't look down on you. it is what it is. we grow together.********
- think about the nature of an ideology that bashes one for being wrong, or even different. Where is the mutual growth? hell if your thinking wins out and decimat********
- es society as all collectivist cultures has done so be it. It is what it is. And forcing ideas amongst those not wise enough to see the difference will never********
- change a thing. but you said you are a family man. be irresponsible of you not to think of the future you creating for your kid********
- all intentions aside, really look at historically the future you are creating. i find parents with real reason are a bit more objective with reason.********
- if not oh well. i doubt you are any different than the blind majority.********
- you're a jerk for trying to impose your view of ethics on me when there's no reason to and you don't know me.monospaced
- the fact you're focusing on me is beyond insane, considering there's nothing unique about my situationmonospaced
- I don't know why you have such a boner for finding a way to show that mono isn't an angel. It's creepy, and it's only something a poorly educated sap would domonospaced
- and let's face it, the REAL reason you are anti market is you're too poor, stupid or too pathetic to invest, and you're just bitter about other people's successmonospaced
- oh, and the future I'm creating for my children is a good one, full of trust funds and market richesmonospaced
- since you're a poorly educated childless sap with a chip on his shoulder, you would never understandmonospaced
- haha. imposing MY view of ethics? what are those in comparison to yours? As i see you just dont like to be judged same in the same light as you have judged.********
- And what in all my rants of support for capitalism makes you think im anti market? That alone makes me think you have little understanding of the subjects at********
- hand. Im full pro free markets. It doesn't make them fool proof. Snake oil sells. Butt if the market is full of snake oil ppl begin to think its the markets fau********
- lt rather blame themselves. in this case if the market drops 50% in large sell off who would u blame?********
- would you own your false belief in a promise that never came. similar to many ppl of faith that have fallen on hard times. beleive it was the work of some devil********
- that there is no way you got swindled because so many ppl believed the same thing? Lots you dont know until u do********
- And as far as the poor, stupid, childless all you got correct is childless. However i do have a dog which i find no different than a child********
- But the poor and stupid are absolutely relative terms. You cant know if im poor in comparison too you so thats asinine********
- Assuming all in comparison to yourself... And stupid. the fact you choose insults vs discussion or attempted rebuttal says more for me than u********
- oh yea. and i think if you take away any deferment or tax adjustments you'd see so much less investment
- nb6
"I hate trying to phrase sentences based on character limits"
***writes like fifteen Notes on his own post before anyone else even responds.
hehe. All good. Continue discussing.
- I'm just saying that itnb
- actually looks like younb
- love phrasing sentences based on charachter limitsnb
- or else why would you do itnb
- all the timenb
- simply because i ended a thought, than had another related so use notes as post script instead of progressing a thread on a post script thought.********
- if i made your comment to me i'd also probably do it in notes. it doesn't really value a thread progression, but thats me i guess********
- lots of people like to progress threads to feel relevant, or in hopes for dopamine likes. i finally got mono to admit to his own selfish interests outside any********
- morality standings. too me plenty worth it, but i dont feel any need to make post to bump thread when directing conversation to you about it. hopefully that********
- helps you see a little of my MO on thread vs note********
- PS i know you dont care and have no interest. Just trying to make a zinger for a endless vacuum of non sense.********
- your MO was to get me to admit I invest money to make money? You’re a fucking assholemonospaced
- no my MO was to to get you to admit you blindly invest anything that had return. regardless of intent, time, principle, or merit********
- displaying your action are say no different than the any co. or individual. You chase blindly returns. Your actions make you far more republican than your words********
- The idea of the right vs left is profit over greater good. I do question wether you'd be pissed if your retirement was absorbed, or even if interest rates raise********
- to cut it in half. after all its assets value that is the largest part of the wealth gap. Im pretty sure you would fight anythign that harmed your interests********
- despite the principle. and i think its great to finally have you admit that********
- Why? It’s not like I claimed otherwise.monospaced
- Also you couldn’t be more wrong about what it means. It doesn’t make me more republican. It just means I’m a normal smart person. You’re just being an asshole.monospaced
- #thermodynamics
#highschooldropoutmonospaced - haha. have your cake and eat it too hypocrite. id love to explain me an asshole part for stating obvious that you acknowledge********
- some people dont respond to reason. i can see your reason and triggers in the way you react. when confronted you flail like a scared duck********
- your ultimate rebuttal isn't logic its hashtags. 2 with 0 reasoning or reference to reality outside your point of reference.********
- to explain you have done nothing to deny any existence of entrophy in our poltical and social systems. Outright saying our simple phyics do not exist********
- second u think a highschool dropout without defining what that means. as if all highschools are the same. ive told u before i slept through class and was 5th********
- and beat both top ranks in AP. Yes a poedunk town. No worse than inner school standards, but still the rules and reg of an imcompetent gov ran edu system********
- i was smart enough to cash in all my scholarships to finance partying and downhill racing for a couple years and go into the easy filed of advertising********
- where its full of shit and only a few can can call it what it is and if you know the role you get paid for little effort.********
- i wonder how much in student loans you took out before you felt "qualified". Some ppl see the hustle those are just pawns in it.********
- oh my god, you are soooooo stupidmonospaced
- I am not a hypocrite. I play the market. I make money. I pass on money to my family. If you're not doing this, yo'ure just a loser.monospaced
- and by the way, thermodynamics has to do with physical things, like matter and energy, neither of which make up politics or economicsmonospaced
- It's painfully obvious you are poorly educated, will have a shit retirement and any kids you have (god help them) will be left with nothingmonospaced
- you probably think the theory of relativity only has to do with time travel... look up thermodynamics of systems and entrophy. the idea that politics or econom********
- ies are not systems... no. explain why politics and economies are not systems suceptiple to entrophy. in doing so you might learn something********
- You do realize that entrophy isn't a word right? You've spelling it wrong over, and over, and over again. Makes you look like a fucking idiot.monospaced
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- just like most of Trump his endorsements didn't pan out. Get out, you troll.tank02
- Trump is an out of touch elite celebrity. Except the actual elite never enjoyed much of his company because he’s such a fucking twat.monospaced
- Nobody ever cared about what he thinks until it was too late. Most people still don’t.monospaced
- russian trollzaq
- 36 candidates that Trump supported lost.fooler
- that douchebags who makes idiotic graphics like that ....neverscared
- ********1
I'm in shock with the racist anti-migrant caravan in Tijuana, Mexico. WTF?!...
- shocked that you're shocked. what reaction where you expecting?Gnash
- understanding, kindness, support? maybe I'm too naive and idealistic sometimes...********
- partly explained by the fear created by trump's rhetoric that he'll close the border thus damaging local economies on the border.lowimpakt
- This is nothing, wait until 3000 men rush the border. That will make for great press...robotron3k
- It's getting exciting!!! https://youtu.be/7VY…robotron3k
- ^ that's the video I actually saw. define exciting robo, please...********
- monocultural societies tend be fairly xenophobic. there's nothing surprising by this reactionGnash
- BonSeff2
- Big fan of B Movie, one of the few 80s tracks still on my playlist.allthethings
- I have to listen to it to remember nothing has changedBonSeff
- The revolution will put you in the drivers seat...see_thru
- if you like that, watch this ...
https://fourthree.bo…Bluejam
- chukkaphob-5
Take away the Teleprompter and Obama is a bumbling buffoon ... "Sounds just like the crackhead at the gas station down the street"
- https://youtu.be/G7R…robotron3k
- Dude is being interrupted. But cool story bro.BonSeff
- Of course you can find examples of him stumbling over words, but he's actually a very good speaker. He was a lecturer and law professor, ffs.monospaced
- I didn't know Obama was still in politics? What office is he holding again? Good thing he sucked at talking in public cuz he mopped the floor with thezarkonite
- republicans, image if he had been good! LOL.zarkonite
- lol.. both of you defending him is just as much nonsense as him speaking without a teleprompter :)chukkaphob
- lol, the only nonsense is the attempt at saying he wasn't a good public speaker. People are going to compare to Trump, naturally, who is flat out awful.monospaced
- watch the video again. Pffft.chukkaphob
- Obama was a good telepromper READER; and a terrible SPEAKER. fact.
empty suit. student for life. smoke & mirrors.chukkaphob - dang chukka, coming in hot on this one. what did obama do to piss you off today?capn_ron
- DOES IT MATTER?!?teh
- @capn_ron just having a laugh :) and calling it like it ischukkaphob
- so were back to the old saying
"Thanks Obama"? hahaha.capn_ron - it's also amusing to see Obama fanbois triggered and to read their (desperate attempts at) defending his nonsensical BS. Haha!chukkaphob
- it's more amusing to me that you care enough to want to troll said fanboys.capn_ron
- no matter what you're trying to do, Obama was better than Trump in nearly every way as a man and leader, but especially as a public speakermonospaced
- I hope chukkaphob gets some great climate this holiday weekend.BonSeff
- bahahahchukkaphob
- wow, he stumbles on a few words? this is so tame compared to the daily embarrassments of trump.inteliboy
- Who gives a shit either way? He won twice, and now he's gone. Your motivation for this post is what exactly?zarkonite
- Maybe you’ll discover his motivation by reading his personal, written opinion: “Crack head at the gas station”monospaced
- Not my personal written opinion, dude. Learn what a statememt wrapped around in quotes means! it's basic grammar. It's not that hard, you can manage! lolchukkaphob
- #triggered LOL!chukkaphob
- There are reasons for source citation. LOL?BonSeff
- Who said it, then?monospaced
- Ironically, even WITH a teleprompter Trump is a bumbling buffoon. So...hobgoblin
- BonSeff0
Conservatives will eat this shit up.
- Quick! Pivot to Iran!BonSeff
- He's still trying to get that war under his belt to gain followers. Iran is going to be our next Iraq/Afghanistancapn_ron
- this isn't even high school level writing.Gnash
- Totally eating it up
https://twitter.com/…BonSeff - ^ spelling bee :)renderedred
- written by Stephen Miller.BusterBoy
- What a precedent to set. I will be interested to talk about this with the republicans I know.R_Kercz
- PonyBoy0
EMU group ends 'The Vagina Monologues,' citing exclusion of some women
...cuz 'not all women have vaginas'...
- lol. the patriarchy has infiltratedGnash
- don't you mean 'penetrated', Gnash? :)
*runsPonyBoy - it takes a lot of balls to convince women that vaginas aren't a part of being a woman.Gnash
- lol @ commentssarahfailin
- chukkaphob3
It's Saudi Arabia's world. We're just living in it. SMH
Trump says US stands with Saudi Arabia despite journalist Khashoggi's killing
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/20/…
- BonSeff-2
Bon Appetit! This grift expires soon!
- is it kosher?Gnash
- he's a jewish pastor bakker LOLrenderedred
- I thought that was a joke. Peppers gotta prep. How much of this stuff will be found in basements 60 years from now. Probably still ediblePhanLo
- BonSeff0
Here is what chukka wishes obama sounded like
- drgs1
Today is November 20 2018. Donald Trump is still alive.
- way too long. he should be dead by now... from stress, from being a fat fuck, or from assassination because he’s a stupid assholemonospaced
- hobgoblin1
It's so telling that just a few hours ago, for absolutely no discernible reason, chukka/robokkk posts a video of... Obama.
Really.
Really...
Is it because...
The S&P 500 fell 1.82%, or 48.84 points, as of market close. The Dow tumbled 2.21%, or 551.8 points, and the Nasdaq fell 1.7%, or 119.65 points.
Both the S&P 500 and the Dow have erased year-to-date gains as of market close Tuesday. Each is now down about 1% this year.
I find it funny that when the market is up you = that to Trump doing a good job and the economy soaring. Yet, when it's down you deflect and point everyone in another direction to cover your fucking stupidity.
You have to be over 40 years old now. Stop. Get a fucking life and move on.
- Or because he’s sucking Saudi dick, dropping oil prices, selling them billions in weapons deals, and tanking the market as a result?monospaced
- I can't stand Trump ;-)
Don't be so prejudiced.chukkaphob - in march of 09 the dow dipped its lowest to 6,450. Today it is a 24,465. Meanwhile main street is still struggling. such bullshit. not one banker jailed.BonSeff
- Trump inherrited this bull market. seriously, how high can it go?BonSeff
- I don't think they give a fuck and are just riling us up. the 'provocateur' parroting of the alt right. and it works.inteliboy
- You realize the reason for the market decline is because Dems won the house. This ain't rocket science.robotron3k
- Oh and it might be a good time to buy the dip...robotron3k
- because of thermodynamics? no it’s not because dems won the house and took several state governments. who actually told you this nonsense robotard?monospaced
- Peterffy is kinda on it, even he predicted:robotron3k
- https://www.marketwa…robotron3k
- That isn’t what’s happening though. The election was weeks ago. This is something else entirely.monospaced
- Gnash-4
- racist xenophobeGnash
- Europe needs to get a handle on immigration to get a handle on immigration - not because some dickheads are voting for Orban, LePen etcFax_Benson
- solve the human problem and you solve the political one.Fax_Benson
- +1 FaxPhanLo
- sounds a little too single minded...neverscared
- @Fax that's exactly what she said.zarkonite
- she needs to just retire and pick up a couple hobbiesKrassy
- allthethings0
"For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was ill and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.” ‘Then the righteous will answer him, “Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison and go to visit you?” ‘The King will reply, “Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.”
- trump's cruelty is only going to escalatelowimpakt
- Oh good god, shut the fuck up.severian
- Yeh man, let it go.Morning_star
- The idiot mom with 5 kids in sandals trying to break into the USA in broad daylight, running through smoke bombs and riot police. Smart.robotron3k
- BonSeff-1
cindy hyde smith parody is fantastic
- allthethings0
https://crooked.com/articles/bet…
2020
THE CASE FOR BETO O’ROURKE- I wonder what nickname Trump would come up with for him. BETA O'Rourke or is it too obviousyuekit
- Trump's branding is legendary...robotron3k
- legendarily badmonospaced
- But it’s not lost on me that the nations most stupid, deplorable, ignorant and hateful asshats really respond to it. Probably because they’re so clueless.monospaced
- It's GOLD & BOLD, what's not to love?ben_
- Trump is basically the old guy client who asks you to make the logo bigger and gold emboss everything.yuekit
- ^Gnash