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http://reason.com/blog/2018/11/2…
lets hope the supreme court votes with reason. the civil forfeiture laws are fucked in most states.My aunt had to struggle to get 100k back from AZ because they thought that much cash had to be related to drugs even though there was no drug offense involved in the activity of arrest.
- What was the $100k in cash for that she was driving around with when she was arrested?monospaced
- DVs?? How can anyone been in favour of asset forfeiture?Gnash
- it was her dude and unrelated to anything but the dept saw the money so tried to tie it to drugs********
- its just funny to see a simplistic fucked up law by all reasons that supreme court laugh at get down voted********
- makes you question the up vote down vote system as collective reasoning right?********
- however mono in that you participate so much why do you not answer basic question?********
- again i cant help but think its a instinct refusal.********
- ive asked plenty of questions directed to your responses and nothing but you comment on this?********
- to me its absurd to state the obvious. but its clear to me you have no sound reasoning to ground you too. just delaying or ignoring in hopes ppl wont see it********
- ive seen many cowards live such the same way and actually succeed for a short time before reality catches up. and it always catches up********
- but you do you and ill do me, and i will continually all out your bullshit wether you acknowledge it or not. Its what i do********
- you are the exact specimen of blind #entrophy********
- hell if every fool knew they were a fool would such things continue. Assume for a moment you might be the fool when you lack ability to contest views********
- I was just asking what the money was for. I didn’t say it wasn’t hers. Seems odd to be driving around with $100k cash and get arrested.monospaced
- I didn’t answer a question because none was asked.monospaced
- ugh...ill be as straight forward as possible with a single question. You seem to think entrophy has nothing to do with politics. How so?********
- And yes not related to asset forfeiture but to the previous post only a page back.********
- What was the $100k for? Why was she arrested in the first place? Kinda weird to be driving around with that kind of cash no?monospaced
- "How so?" is hardly a "straight forward" (sic) question. Entrophy isn't even a real word.monospaced
- In my opinion, if I was a cop and I pulled someone over, arrested them, and then found $100K in cash, I'd assume drugs too.monospaced
- I'm also curious why your aunt was carrying 100k in cash. Seems like an extremely dangerous thing to do regardless of the cops.yuekit
- Was your aunt or her partner convicted of anything?ben_
- eh mono youre one of those guys when confronted cant step up it seems. the hide in a tree until bored defense. whatever, you win im bored.********
- to respect privacy i cant be full on details.she wasnt caught with 100k, her partner was. he had a charge against him not drug related********
- took over a year and lawyers but she got the money back. the whole point is the asset forfeiture is largely like training day********
- it gives far too much power to seize property. as displayed in the article the lawyer defends seizure of cars for traveling over 5 miles per hour.********
- it is so stupid. I find it hard for anyone to make a reasonable argument in favor of such laws and rulings.********
- so why was she driving him around with $100K, and why was she arrested? and if it wasn't her money, why did she get it back?monospaced
- How does someone even go about acquiring 100k in cash? Go to the bank with a suitcase?yuekit
- @yuekit, drug salesmonospaced
- I guess it will remain a mysteryyuekit
- @deathboy, I don't think your example holds water against the article. She was involved with a criminal, and for whatever reason had an enormous amount of $...ben_
- in her possession while with this person. Seems like cause to suspect her as an associate if nothing else. She got her money back though, so all's well?ben_
- And here's an example of why I'd be in favour of it, personally. Imagine your aunt and her partner were taking that 100k to pay someone for their involvement...ben_
- ...in a crime, it would be great if that money never reached it's inteded recipient.ben_
- wow. idiots.********
- there was this http://reason.com/bl…********
- have a little knowledge about what you think u feel about....********
- we know the money was tried to be taken for systematic gains on unreasonable grounds and yet proven otherwise through expensive court preceedings********
- there are plenty of cases that depict the civil forfeiture laws as money grabs for the state. goes back to the mob era with racketeering in proihibition********
- if someone supports a law where a vehicle can be seized fro a traffic violation and need to be bought back than please id like to hear your reasoning********
- even if it s 1200 + traffic violation fee. Is this just mob law? Or is there rational behind it?********
- no different than plundering those on road to burning man********
- 1. Why was she pulled over?
2. Why was she arrested?
3. What was the $100K for?monospaced - nothing to do with topic mono... 1) she wasn't, her dude was. she was not arrested, the 100k was for nothing specific.********
- 100k was a lil quick cash to run because he got in trouble, trouble was unequivocally unrelated to "drugs" as they tried to say to keep it********
- she got the money back but had to fight with lawyers to do it. this is the guilty until innocent shit that goes against our basic liberties when the state is in********
- volved. if you speed, should it be legal to seize your property and have to lawyer up to regain right to property?********
- have a hard time thinking anyone with common sense would be for such rulings so I can only think you agree but will not say so, and instead focus on the bait********
- i'd laid out. i could have left it at the link, but curious to see what the focus is on when introduced with a personal note. the jist of the issue********
- or all the superficial drama of my personal note and handle. hate to say it but superficilaity wins over principles********
- allthethings0
This is the state I live in. This is not a story where you can say, "Well, both sides..."
https://www.jsonline.com/story/n…
Tony Evers says he will 'take any steps possible' to prevent GOP plan to take away his power
Also, a Twitter thread offers a bit of context by gathering all the outrages in one place:
- BonSeff3
- Fuuuuu... It's on in France!!robotron3k
- Macron's new omelette recipe?shapesalad
- kirshar120
^ If we're comparing states we live in, Cindy Hyde Smith was just elected as senator here in Mississippi even after being recorded saying "If he invited me to a public hanging, I’d be on the front row" and "then they remind me, that there's a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who that maybe we don't want to vote, maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult. So I think that's a great idea."
Both within a month or so before the elections....
- Mississipi is full of racists, surprised? Also trendy: Denying science, not graduating high school, being proud of not knowing things, probably cousin fucking.zarkonite
- wasn't the racist hanging stuff out of context. and the context more in defense of death penalty?********
- whether it was or not, to say that in a state that has a long history of lynching african americans shows the ingrained racism within her, and a lack of wisdom.kirshar12
- And yes, Zark, it's about as backwards as you can get down here...kirshar12
- NO. not wether it was or not. Context matters. If it was said in relation to race shit changes the conversation********
- if in context of hanging offenders its totally different. Is there reason to believe she is talking hanging niggers or some specific race solely?********
- would u even accept a PC apology in that she stated she was sorry she offended your beliefs even talking about somethigng u dont imagine?********
- i hate the voting populace is made up of irrational children********
- kirshar12: and please don't think I believe EVERYONE in miss is a retard... I just think smart people are hopelessly outnumbered.zarkonite
- Zark, you would be right in that assumption.kirshar12
- Deathboy, in context of her other comments, racism seems to be the best choice.kirshar12
- Historically, here in MS, when groups of white people laugh and joke about public hangings, it's about lynching blacks.kirshar12
- kirshar you think she is a person who enjoys seeing people of color hang? I personally don't know enough about her but find the people who like that shit********
- are usually ignorant and have never experienced and if done don't like it. what i think is she got baited on anwersing a question that was phrased so easily to********
- trigger good news or political divide, and question was phrased for the purpose. Hangings are not normal death penalty sentences. As such the language used********
- as method is pointless. Only the context. If it was a question on how she feel to see people hanged as standard death penalty that would be something********
- and you see many more voices against her words on the inhumanity aspect. But it really sounds like baited out of context verbiage********
- Not trying to debase your MS feeling on the language used. Not from there. Just trying to point out how you are more than likely being puppeted********
- by media. these things are engineered and Pr'd for a purpose down to the questions asked with possible outcomes. always look at context********
- question the verbiage used and for what means if not in context. Big red flag. If there is other evidence she racist who wants to hang********
- color folks and revels in it I'd love to see some evidence. I just find it hard to believe with media attention there wasnt any.********
- BonSeff4
Rudy accidentally created a link in his tweet and someone bought the domain. I love twitter sometimes.
- nicenbq
- <title>Cover Template for Bootstrap</title>********
- I think the real issue is how, in 2018, someone needed Bootstrap to display centered white text on a grey background.********
- Hey, why not load 291kb?Nairn
- lol @sound. haha!Gnash
- "Granda is one of trumps cyber security advisors and doesn't even understand it"fooler
- allthethings0
Trump on Coming Debt Crisis: ‘I Won’t Be Here’ When It Blows Up
The president thinks the balancing of the nation’s books is going to, ultimately, be a future president’s problem.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/tr…
more from the party of law and order, fiscal responsibility and family values...
- MAGA 2020 no?PhanLo
- On another hand you have commies of Democrats like Cortez and a few others who want to give everything for free, rack up 40 trillion over 10 years andBoz
- haven't got the slightest clue or brain how to pay for it. The answer is "we are rich we can afford it". Last time I checked the economy and unemployment in theBoz
- US today is historically high and low respectively. And yes, Moore is right, prop up economy and it gets easier to deal with deficitBoz
- What I find more alarming is the dems and progressives salivating at this country going to shit just to see Trump fail. It's truly fascinating lunacy.Boz
- uhhh ... Trump failing is a move in the right directionmonospaced
- this i found funny not to be front page nytimes. but not surprised since its politics 101, especially left leaning.********
- the democrat socialist types are the i dont give a shit deficit trumps on steroids.********
- but i hoped it detail a cross party platform sense of personal greed and ignorance when he said it out loud********
- lolmonospaced
- allthethings1
In this video, the Chancellor refers to the Brexit "shit show" auf Deutsch.
- zarkonite2
Mueller just recommended no jail time for Flynn, because he "susbtantially helped" his investigation.
I guess he's just showing that he too can pardon anyone if they side with him.
- chukkaphob3
- lol at the Carter side eyeRamanisky2
- Obama's are class. Hillary was having none of it.BonSeff
- trump is totally looking down her blousefooler
- please like mejaylarson
- This should be posted in Politically Correct OtD thread, because nobody talked smack at the funeral...robotron3k
- wut?monospaced
- Hil and Michelle should've sat side by side.notype
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- R_Kercz1
The Intercept "George h w Bush 1924-2018 American war criminal"
- I know everyone hates Trump and it's fun that this guy disliked him too, but not sure why he's being granted this sainthood.ben_
- Bush was a corrupt kingpin that's why the ceremony. Makes Trump look like Gandhi, Bush has done so much shite, it's gonna come out now that he's gone.robotron3k
- a lot is already out there, like on this podcast Robo.fadein11
- sorry robo, but the fact is that trump is making bush look good.monospaced
- Ya trump makes anyone look good...pango
- gandhi loved baby in cages or what is robo blabberin about?neverscared
- notype1
Perhaps this is forgiveness. idk.
- https://twitter.com/…jaylarson
- but uncropped phone screen shots are unforgivable.fooler
- Continuity0
Bye, John.
- robotron3k-6
After Trump's win. I'm glad to see European deplorables are wanting more nationalistic policies, like lower taxes and immigration control. But if you look at it as a whole, the EU is buckling and Belgium is getting nervous...
'Yellow Vest' protests: Nearly 1,400 detained in new day of unrest in France"
https://www.france24.com/en/2018…
Forget Brexit – Italy's populists are a far bigger problem for the EU. The EU has bigger concerns than Brexit
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www…
Clashes as yellow vest protests grow in Belgium, Netherlands
- Denmark also sticking up for themselves.shapesalad
- Not to rain on your parade but France yellow vest is not a nationalist thing, as much as MLP would like it to be.dyspl
- I've been watching the yellow vest protests, it's super boring...robotron3k
- I think they initially had an idea what. They wanted from the government but then stopped for a cigarette and forgot what they were there for.robotron3k
- Yawngarbage
- sted2
- chukkaphob0
- money vampires.lowimpakt
- LOL! wut?chukkaphob
- Isn't this video from 2014?hobgoblin
- chukkaphob3
Some outlets suggest social media and Russian bots in particular, is a driving force behind the Yellow Vests riots, not French fiscal policy...
- Isn't RT a Russian Government funded news outlet?wordssssss
- yupchukkaphob
- Gosh those Russian bots are getting sophisticated. You couldn't take tell them apart from real people if it weren't for the yellow vests.monNom
- chukkaphob2
does Macron know what he's doing? or just training on the job?
