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    • lol still going on about Obama and emails I see.inteliboy
    • For starters, Obama always an consistently supported gay marriage and equality, no matter what, and despite his beliefs.monospaced
    • He also was very transparent about his shifting stance on the subject over the next 8 years. It's well document in eloquent speech if you don't believe me.monospaced
    • But yeah, ignore reality and I can see why a conservative might get a boner for this nonsense post.monospaced
    • this article charts his progress and growing up on the issue http://time.com/3816…lowimpakt
    • Black-listed! Woah now!!robotron3k
    • hypocrisy is unbecoming no matter how eloquent the speech may be, mono... obama switched stances to satisfy constituents... which is disgusting.PonyBoy
    • I wouldn't go so far to say he's a hypocrite. His views did change, legitimately. Most importantly, he never injected his personal views into his politics.monospaced
    • I also changed my views on the subject over the last couple of decades. That's not disgusting, is it? It's called personal evolution, and it's a good thing.monospaced
    • He didn't win votes by saying he would attack gay marriage, nor did he win them supporting it. His political and support for gay marriage never changed. Ever.monospaced
    • He pandered to a religious side of his party—thus Kevin Hart's quote. You're not disgusting for changing your mind—you're disgusting if you lie for a vote.PonyBoy
    • That's the thing. I don't think he lied. I think he genuinely held one view, and that it evolved over a decade. But these are just opinions of ours, nothing mormonospaced
    • "His political and support for gay marriage never changed. Ever." or "I think he genuinely held one view, and that it evolved over a decade." which?PonyBoy
    • Cuz I'm still of the idea he pandered to those of faith in his own party... I agree w/your first statement that he has never changed (and thus lied for votes)PonyBoy
    • Once again, his personal beliefs never impacted his politics. For example, despite his early beliefs, his platform was always FOR gay marriage support.monospaced
    • I doubt he won any religious votes considering he would NEVER even entertain the abolishment of gay marriage.monospaced
    • And later, when his beliefs evolved, his platform remained consistent. there's nothing nefarious about that. He was always politically consistent.monospaced
    • I sincerely don't think he lied at all, for votes.monospaced
    • Not buying it, mono. :) To be shifty is to be a politician. I believe the man sincerely pandered to religious folks when it was necessary (pre-2008)...PonyBoy
    • ... but when the PC mood shifted he shifted too. THAT shift makes him a hypocrite BEFORE the public PC mood shift. Pre-2008 all he did was pander.PonyBoy
    • And let's be clear: If you're truly 'Christian' or any Abrahamic religion you believe scripture. To shift those scriptures to meet current Pop Culture shows...PonyBoy
    • ... 'you're' either a hypocrite or you didn't give a shit about the Faith you say you're a part of to begin with. Either way you're living up to what is...PonyBoy
    • ...currently considered politically correct but not scripturally correct. If you say you're of a certain Faith but don't follow it you are a hypocrite...PonyBoy
    • ... and in Obama's case... a pandering hypocrite.PonyBoy
    • Who's christian conservative votes did he win pre-2008 saying this? I'll wait.monospaced
    • he wasn't pandering to them... I already said it was the xtians in the dem party he was pandering to... ... he appealed to nearly zero conservatives (duh)PonyBoy
    • "He pandered to a religious side of his party"... is what I said... referring to the blue dogs who still give a shit about their faithPonyBoy
  • yuekit1

    What a weird world we live in

    • ! no fucking waycolin_s
    • I don't get it.monospaced
    • It's OK if you don't get ityuekit
    • I'm sure it is. Maybe someone will clarify. I'm not a twitter user.monospaced
    • He's so cordial! awwwwBonSeff
    • Yeah sorry just wanted to use that line :) It's just a funny anecdote about how small the world is these days. Former president of Iran listens to an obscureyuekit
    • left-wing stand up comedy podcast from Chicago.yuekit
    • this tweet and comments got me to follow
      https://twitter.com/…
      BonSeff
  • BonSeff2

    Google CEO testifies before the House Judiciary Committee

    Conservative House Members are trying to get to the bottom of their conspiracy

  • BonSeff2

    Video of Trump meeting with Chuck & Nancy, and Pence not saying shit.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?45…

    • Pence just patiently waiting his presidency turnKrassy
    • that was a shitshowdorf
    • Chuck dunking on him face-to-face was funny as shit. welcome to the next two years.BonSeff
    • Oh lordy, Chuck and Nancy were ambushed, but they did highlight their stubborn attitudes.robotron3k
    • no they weren'tmonospaced
    • Is not wanting to shut down the government stubborn? If anything, this is trump being a baby, saying he’ll shut it down if he doesn’t get $10b for a wall.monospaced
    • robo doesn't understand that the government is comprised of working americans, like the rest of us.BonSeff
    • lol, he is a child isn't he, it's still mind boggling.fadein11
  • chukkaphob4

    Newly-Released MKUltra Docs: The CIA Made Remote-Controlled Dogs With Brain Surgery

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2…

    • They used concrete to adhere to the dogs bone, pretty horriblerobotron3k
  • BonSeff1

    • “Ohhhhhhhhhhhh ahhhhhh,
      Mother should I build the Wall?”
      Ramanisky2
    • he's crashed surely?fadein11
    • Haha! He's such an essential part of the process.aslip
    • "fuck the fossils"fadein11
  • Ramanisky26

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    • Hmmm based on what I read the caravan consists of a few thousand people...can you explain how that has any effect at all on homeless veterans?yuekit
    • This is just a distraction so people won't pay attention to UKs Brexit hard exit that will occur in March 2019. It's taken Trump off the front page it's so bad.robotron3k
    • buy fewer fighter jets and look after your vets. The mindset behind this shitty cartoon is vile and reprehensible.lowimpakt
    • The only travesty here is spending money to send troops to the border when it could be spent on vets. Even worse is spending billions on a wall.monospaced
    • freedom, your mom is asking when will you be able to complete that GED?zaq
    • The real joke here is that Republicans would ever contemplate spending more money on homeless people.yuekit
    • Aren't homeless people considered sub-human in the US?PhanLo
    • By conservatives, yes, they are. Along with non christians and most people with darker skin.monospaced
    • Outside mental illness, homeless here have smartphones and email. Travel the world you'll see real poverty...robotron3k
    • oh robo...monospaced
    • 'We have some of the best conditions for mentally ill homeless people on the planet'.PhanLo
    • By that measure, Robo is almost homeless.ben_
    • 1.2trillion dollars spent on security every year. If the vets aren't getting the help they need it's the army's fault.zarkonite
    • the army is the government, and VA funding decided by the current administrationmonospaced
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  • lowimpakt8

    like a well aged trump steak

    • Hannity has scrubbed his twitter acct of all mentions of cohenBonSeff
    • I also think it is safe to assume stormy daniels played a huge role in this. pretty brave if you ask me.BonSeff
    • it's like everyone who screamed "Lock Her Up" is going to prison instead of HRC.capn_ron
  • fooler8

  • Gardener1
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    • he lost the popular vote by 2%monospaced
    • Let it sink in, and let it burn, that this is really the only form of data display that this dumbass can possibly semi comprehend.mg33
    • So maybe 15% of the country (blue) holds 50% of the population... That doesn't seem correct unless most of the US is empty, no wonder Trump won.robotron3k
    • It is absolutely correct that a small portion of the country has the most people. NYC is 2.5% of the population alone. CA is easily 10% by itself.monospaced
    • Most of the US IS empty. The most empty parts are populated by the most ignorant, least educated, and poorest people in the country. That's who voted for him.monospaced
    • And even then, he LOST the popular vote. Almost every single person living in a real city voted against him and continues to. Those are progressive people.monospaced
    • https://www.qbn.com/…monospaced
    • https://www.business…monospaced
    • If you overlay the education and income maps, you'll see that the red votes were from the least educated and poorer states.monospaced
    • If the poor and ignorant won this last election, what about the rich and educated votes over the last 50+ years?! There were some fun ups for surerobotron3k
    • Going up on his cool wall...see_thru
    • What about them, robo? You're talking about politics from decades ago, around civil rights, vietnam and other wars.monospaced
    • Degrees and income are not measures of intelligence. Hell intelligence would question why such few populations with many ppl seem to lean a certain way
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    • Are those major cities beacons where people want to go to, or are they shedding population through backwards thinking?
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    • Can large cities overcome tribalistic instincts and homogeny and truely be diverse and free. It seems to not be in our nature.
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    • A minority of tribes seem to think in one direction vs a majority. Yes the minority has numbers, but why so many others not on board?
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    • Why are people leaving the minority blue areas for the red? Just saw Nevada had 2% growth with a huge shift from CA
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    • the image says a lot. i just don't think people are seeing what it represents. In a nutshell the blue represent you socialistic areas. Free food attracts stray
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    • cats. Gets enough cats to have a lot of numbers but eats at food supplies. Without major gov bailouts u are going to see those areas wither and starve
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    • one reason so many people left CA, NY, illinois. Look towards the larger samples of separate demos instead of small saturated demos. you find better idea of
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    • a general idea of truth. have liberal city folk on every trend following everything they believe they need, vs ignorant non tech person who cares for none of
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    • that stuff. just family friends hobbies and time spent. who's ideas and thoughts are his own or not but are only influenced from a small circle around him and
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    • directly reflect his real experience around him. no global social cause. Only what is relative to him that matters. id trust the majority opinion of small
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    • interest over bubble city interests if I had no idea of what the fuck i was talking about. Why i wasnt surprised trump won and why i wont be surprised 2019 will
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    • be the year to see the bubble pop and try to impeach him out of fear of letting him win a second go because nothing better.
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    • im rambling now. i guess don't take that image as mere land mass, vs numbers. think of it as tribes or teams and basic statistics that a large number similar
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    • thinking groups are more likely correct than the minority. its like want to be a millionaire stat
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    • and again... the people who think they are educated because they paid a shit ton of money for a piece of paper that works as a gold star in Kindegarten
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    • or live in a major city vs those outside with no debt goldstar education drives me insane. Like a down syndrome kid thinking hes smart for having down syndrome.
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    • its not new. part of the process. if one pays a lot for false product they msut beleive in it and hold themselves superior to those who did not regardless of
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    • reason. a symptom of the human condition we exploit everyday with advertising. but sucks when ppl cant see the shit they sell anymore
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    • lo- fucking -l
      another deathboy comment rant
      monospaced
    • and yes, the cities are attracting the most educated people, IN DROVES, and the cities are truly diverse and progressive, to answer your first questionsmonospaced
    • mono... your idea of educated is more involuntary serfdom... those educated are more than likely unable to replace a bulb... its sad
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    • Has your debt per individual become positive in your state or at least improved?... ha .. ha...
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    • the idea of the "higher" education system has been systematically reduced to the whims of the minority. not that it was ever necessary
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    • colleges and hospitals have been 2 major players in debt driven growth that will soon feel the repercussions of reality.
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    • At least hopefully until they try to convince a large populace to do their bidding and gain funds through socialistic ideals.
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    • And as far as diversity goes. You say city is diverse. But you see overall numbers and have to question bias in proximity vs rural and abroad that have less
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    • revenue spend. Does "Russians" drive the more diverse rural america to vote a certain way? I dont think so. I think its quite easy to understand
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    • They have yet to swallow the shit from the city folk and MSM and still has a bit of common sense to realize the bullshit being sold
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    • Again look at Michel de Montaigne for such understandings
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    • You’re incredibly off topic. I’m talking about this map and who voted for trump, and why this map shouldn’t be celebrated you dunce.monospaced
    • And trust me. I’m not the one saying cities are diverse. It’s a god damn fact. Same with education and income and skill levels higher there. Just facts.monospaced
    • It’s just a fact that the blue areas are more populated, more educated, diverse and progressive. It’s not an argument. Just basic facts.monospaced
    • It’s not a debate or an argument and there’s not even a discussion of what education type is better. The statistics are concrete.monospaced
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    • your mom is calling you.zaq
    • lol @ posting a picture of the headline and not a link to the “article”monospaced
    • How about this - the R's created Venezuela, from socialism to this, all to have a perfect example to use for fear mongering, walls, more guns, etc., etc.formed
    • the right are obsessed with Venezuela.inteliboy
    • and emails. and Oprah.inteliboy
  • uan1


    Joe Rogan Experience #1214 - Lawrence Lessig

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  • PhanLo1

    • But that Theresa May of yours?? She a real genius right, I mean look how she nailed that Brexit thingy... Their gonna make statues of her in Picadilly Square!robotron3k
    • Lol Robo.PhanLo
    • Keep deflecting robotardmonospaced