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The simple question here (from reporters) should be, "Why can't we see it?" But democrats would rather shout demands and grandstand than get to the truth. It's not that dems don't want the truth, it's just that they want to shout about it for a while before they do.
Personally, my guess is that this report won't do anything to slow or stop or Trump, regardless of what's in it. But still, is this not such a simple question to Barr?
As usual, the news machine, ever tuning itself to maximize clicks per day is inflating the story with speculation and what Barr's letter means and who said what and blah blah blah.
When does someone just ask Barr simply, "Ok, but why?"
- I've seen tons of Dems saying they want to see it, but McConnell has blocked them from seeing it.allthethings
- Both sides unanimously agreed in a vote that the entire report should be made public, not just Dems.monospaced
- https://www.npr.org/…monospaced
- allthethings2
Trump administration asks court to completely invalidate Obama’s Affordable Care Act
- this should work well for them in next year's electionaliastime
- it didn't work that well for anyone two years agomonospaced
- Yeah seriously what are they thinking here?yuekit
- I doubt they have a replacement this round. They've been quite busy.monospaced
- ideally they should revoke it and have no placement except a plan to cut gov spending in all related healthcare. medcare/medicaid/ss/ subsidies********
- a very important data point that all free healthcare ppl miss is the hockey stick cost of care once gov gets involved. which makes absolute sense to ppl********
- to ppl who advocate free markets and less gov. because its RATIONALLY stupid to blindly think legislation controls humans.********
- or by dictating law to a certain end means it will happen, no matter the good feelings and vibes you get from it.********
- the real market problem we suffer from is siphoning tax dollars to increase prices outside a healthy market. the system has long been rigged to find value********
- in the gov/insurance systems that pay the most. which hurts consumers.The gov and insurance distort true market discovery pricing. And the lobbyists know this********
- and sell it. Politicians are mostly morons/leeches who cant be successful in private arena. And they gladly push anythign that might guarantee them a paycheck********
- no different than kissing bosses ass taco bell, we all have bills. just remember they are more than likely less qualified than the person making you a burger********
- i guess it makes sense that the anti free market people cant comprehend what they have received. You can hold hands and rationally explain it but they dont want********
- answer and its simple as that. same as explaining to a christian fiery chariots didnt happen, or any other hole in a emotionally driven belief system.********
- logic and history has little effect when people have already decided. Its sad so many have yet to rise from 10,000 bc********
- lolmonospaced
- Ah, so the solution is to do nothing and put your head in the sand, handing all the power over to those that only care about profits. Right?formed
- Sounds like you (db) are advocating just giving up on healthcare for America and a better nation and just letting it all get worse and worse.formed
- The only thing we are 100% sure of and that's corporations do nothing positive for people and only act to benefit their shareholders.formed
- The genius of deathboy is that he mixes your standard right-libertarianism with an exterminationist viewpoint. So if you point out that people might die basedyuekit
- repealing some law or regulation (as would be the case with ACA since it bans the concept of "preexisting conditions"), this can't necessarily be characterizedyuekit
- as good or bad. Just another detail to look at.yuekit
- what i would do is get rid of tax incentives that support insurance. junk medicare, get rid of every rule that favors third part market desicions********
- is their a difference between a politician looking to progress career or a medical ceo? they are both looking out for number one, politicians usually more********
- envious of private sector wealth too. formed lets say you see a large amount of capital in elderly care through unlimited fed funds. do you look for ways to********
- maximize profits offering "new" expensive tech or catering to the non paying customers real expectations?********
- The carrot has been created by the gov first, and the market reacts in self interests. Look at healthcare pre FDR and pre gov incentives and you begin to see********
- a bigger picture than "well its too damn expensive and no one can afford it so everyone pays" outlook.********
- @yuekit. When have i ever tried to throw out the people are gonna die like elizabeth warren arguement?********
- https://www.youtube.…********
- Because I have been ridiculed by my handle for advocating that I don't mind if people die. I realize diminishing returns and expenses to go 100% on any issue********
- another problem with healthcare is its tax status. this changes it behavior and the way it operates. tell me a hospital doesnt care about its profitability********
- or operations? if you believe that you are a simp. Check out oklahoma surgery center for tons of info on real pricing********
- they have soem nice pieces on cost of appendectomy. a surgery that hasn;t change much from 600 dollar cost to 30-200K********
- and how hospitals playing by the gov rules have gamed to maximize profits. like not collecting 200K for the surgery and writing off the amount for federal funds********
- the truth is its really complex and not many people are informed, and they choose to believe what makes them feel better********
- @yuekit ... ha nevermind. you are saying if people might die i do ignore that and look at the bigger picture... genius.. i think common sense********
- absolutely correct. reminds me too of a bar conversation with a guy who who was researching some medical condition to get a person to continue to live********
- he thought he was doing a great service. and i brought up the point is it a great service that now to live they need this medical expense, and genetically will********
- pass on the illness creating more costly expenses. drunk guy sad about girls, and so proud of work never actually looked at wether what he was doign was good********
- big picture stuff. take diabetics. with medicine they can live normally but more than likely will pass on disease increasing need for care.********
- surprisingly in this case a larger supply would create more of a market, but fda and regs, and we find large cost increases.********
- long picture if we keep finding cures at unsustainable costs for health issues that allow the passing of same genes we are working backwards in evolution********
- and if that is silly to think about, well I just think vision is limited by comprehension or stubbornness********
- lolmonospaced
- lolbogue
- what no good rational retort? i guess i can assume you agree than********
- lol isn't much of a reasonable retort. all it does is leave me to assume you have none and as much show my point as correct. like a jock in debate********
- you know what happens when you assume, right? FUCKING LOLmonospaced
- lol ISN'T a retort, VERY GOOD! SO proud of you, captain obvious. You know what it is? It's me laughing at your incoherent rants, AGAIN. With the crew. OUT LOUD.monospaced
- LOLmonospaced
- so it me validating your nonsense which is what you seek. that's pathetic. and sad. at least you probably will never have the intelligence to suffer for your********
- shortcomings.********
- however i would prefer you had the common decency not to "troll" or look for attention and leave the conversations to the ppl having them.********
- that is common courtesy in my culture. Might scare away real dialogue with people like ukit that actually can back views********
- LOL!!! The whole office is gonna laugh so hard at your ass. Do you ever read back your own comments? Hilarious. Enjoy your marginal life.monospaced
- Also, my comment was 100% on topic and relevant and as much a part of a backed up discussion as any drivel you shit out. You’re so triggered it’s hilarious.monospaced
- And you’re a troll.monospaced
- haha be careful with who you share it with. What you find amusing might end up being more condemning.********
- as far as your only comment being the invalidation of obamacare 2 years ago. do you not remember justice roberts reason to back it and what he said? the whole********
- enchilada basically. I'd fill you in but lets see if you have a clue which makes your only comment seem ... well silly... hell pull a lifeline from yur crew/fam********
- and the only thing i troll is truth. i get no pleasure in correcting people. I am curious person and like to see the paths people take to get to ideas. And idea********
- s and and I take it as study and learning to better myself. always challenge pre conceptions or indoctrinated culture. im more about philosophy and living well********
- with a cynic leaning. and i dont even have to say my reason, but i do anyways. i think its pretty tough to honestly call me a troll with any evidence********
- but you. you are "trolling" more. And i don't think its your fault. It's you copying media, news outlets and culture projected.********
- trump has not helped culturally in defining a reasonable stance. its just make shit up and stand by it. and I cant help but think your style of posts are copy********
- ing it more. You use to have some half baked nonsense, but recently switched to 100% deflection, LOL, and now introducing the "group" fallacy idea********
- which is trump style thing of saying like hey this is this and because i know me and all these people say its so. follow the leader stuff. herd mentality********
- i would really back track and check premises and maybe question your motives. but definitely seeing a change********
- AND see thats why i do this! Working out you issues made realize a point I don't recall Postman touching on in media cutlure********
- mimicking. or like resonance with trends in designs. but mimicking how people see and judge and reason culturally... something there to think about. new window.********
- not really for you just talking out loud as its my process. words help shape. does monkee see monkee do really work when it comes to reason?********
- trump successful tactics now being emulated by others. despite obvious blow hardage. even by no bodies...********
- is it a product of the education system, in that only right answer is the the one decides at the front of the classroom. the educated liberals who are 100k in********
- debt but have only learned to follow for there indentured servitude, are now following the signals of the current flavor of the 4 year week.********
- edu, human nature, one random design forum person, or something more. the idea to digress in rational scope questions so much********
- was it there to begin with or was it just following a choreographed dance from edu or other society herd knowledge. have to mull this over for a bit********
- lol goldmonospaced
- I didn’t even read what you wrotemonospaced
- gold, but didnt read... you do realize you just lied to yourself. one cant know if its gold until they read. and emphasis on self********
- your irrational bravado only goes so far with certain types. Heres my hypothesis, you read, have no grounds to ability to challenge what i said********
- chose the trump style defense of choosing a stupid statement that seems belittling and following it up with a lie that makes no sense.********
- can you keep this lie up? Maybe it will be good. your kid sees his dads such a shit show and better himself. a reverse dynamic from the kids of successful paren********
- ts. adversity is one of the best teachers, but always sad to see.********
- or man up. take stance to an argument and provide alternative rationale. can overlook all the other shortcomings and focus on topic********
- a graceful out... on headline alone is it conceivable? and on article alone is there not ground and why? so there's your invite to the adult table********
- and to anyone else. this is why you engage trolls. its not about feeding them as correcting them. trolls like emotion (hence stating im upset with no evidence)********
- ignoring they fester. Challenging and educating and it will do better to fix the problem. There will always be low self esteem people looking to try and push********
- down others, but tolarence and explanation and walking people through their hangups is better for the whole than writing off as lepers. and not as only as chari********
- ty aspect but a responsibility in order to maintain western traditional freedoms. anything else is lazy********
- allthethings1
Why we are in the mess we are in right now:
- Ramanisky27
According to Republican Sen Mike Lee....
The solution to climate change is to fall in love, get married and have have some kids.We are so fucked!!!!!
- the entire presentation is something else. Watch, laugh nonstop and then cry.Ramanisky2
- The US can rise and become a nation of shaggers once again.PhanLo
- this is a joke right?nbq
- https://www.youtube.…renderedred
- This is the GOP's truth shining through. I am sure we'll get a logical explanation from our local fanboys soon.formed
- great presentation, shit ending, would love to see the directors cut. also that's a great example why creative people stay away from (practical) politicssted
- and they say cannabis makes u nuts...neverscared
- BusterBoy6
- robowifenbq
- Smokey EyesRamanisky2
- exorcism?fadein11
- Smokey Baconjmckinno
- a hamberder with a wig.neverscared
- She really must have a hard time sleeping at night..lying about a liar, day after day after dayformed
- is that her "who farted?" faceBluejam
- thats her i´am a fart face.neverscared
- It's just catching her in a bad light. She's an angel.PhanLo
- "Y'all gonna eat the rest of that possum?"Maaku
- BonSeff2
This fire and brimstone Evangelical prayer was before the swearing in of the PA House’s first ever Muslim woman.
- jesus isn't fire & brimstone, that's the old bookGnash
- Mental illness.
https://www.youtube.…PhanLo - https://www.youtube.…BonSeff
- I know, I know, it's not as cool as the "OOORRREDEEERRRR" guy...robotron3k
- this is fucked up.lowimpakt
- He's also part of an outdated system Robo.PhanLo
- that book has no place in governmentmonospaced
- In the name of Chezuzzz... we cage children, we destroy lives of palesitinian families, Chezuzz, amenSalarrue
- Fucking American Froot Loops, Amen!!!utopian
- In other countries... https://www.google.c…robotron3k
- what's your point, robo?monospaced
- going larry elder #whataboutismBonSeff
- the point is that it's all lolz and upvotes here when a jesus freak spas out on god. but MAGA and NAZI when anyone posts stupid shit muhammad sayzGnash
- uhhhh ... it's ridiculous to have this in our government, hence the expected reaction. Still don't see what robo's point was though.monospaced
- The point is the vid is mild and the USA is a badass country when compared to how other governments are ruled.robotron3k
- Other pleasant countries to live... https://www.aljazeer…robotron3k
- Muhammad is just as daft Gnash. 100%
People rattling on about Middle Eastern sky gods/prophets shouldn't be taken seriously in government.PhanLo - That's the point, really. most everyone here knows they're both just as daft, Phan. it's the pious sidenote posturing I'm referring to.Gnash
- I've never heard anyone go on about Allah like that in the US political system, would be amusing if they did. Some peoples heads would explode.PhanLo
- oh, I guess we should be happy that our government doesn't kill LGBT people? ok, thanks.monospaced
- Give em time Mono.
The closest we have to that gibberish in the UK is the DUP, but even they tone down the madness a little.PhanLo - https://www.theguard…Gnash
- Birmingham is a no go zone Gnash. Not for any religious reasons, just it's really boring.PhanLo
- It looked interesting in Peaky BlindersGnash
- It was the most bombed city in WW2, the planning afterwards wasn't that good. City centre is pretty horrendous. You can still get along the canals I suppose.PhanLo
- Most bombed city in Britain, I think some other places got a bit hotter in other parts of the world.PhanLo
- 3rd most bombed but yes it was hit hardfadein11
- robotron3k3
Legendary Mike Lee... Lolz
- Already posted above, JazX.mathinc
- It's soooo good though... I didn't know Sharknado 4 was a documentary!!robotron3k
- Guess what industry is the #6 contributor to Mike Lee?mathinc
- But I'm sure his stance on the environment is out of his concern for humanity! Sooooo goooood!mathinc
- allthethings3
- lolmonospaced
- Ha!fadein11
- everything that doesn´t fit on a basebal cap in big type is to complicated for the dumb...ah trump fellas.neverscared
- #MAGAutopian
- I believe the report was ready before the mid-terms (!) and so while months will lapse for this full release, Trump will be doing victory laps!robotron3k
- allthethings6
I don't understand the AOC hatred. Talk about someone who tells it like it is. And her reputation for being dumb or unprepared is pure misogyny.
Swing-State Democrats Move to Counter Party’s Drift Toward Left
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
“I hope they realize that we could propose having a ham sandwich for lunch and they are going to call it socialist,” Ocasio-Cortez, a freshman from New York, said in an interview. “This is not new; this is what they did with the ACA, this is what they did with Obama.”
- She's the Sarah Palin of the Dems–a nice looking, squeaky voiced, dingle-berry. She's not popular,MSM is the only one crazy about her because she gets clicks...robotron3k
- I think she's intelligent, vibrant, forward-thinking, and self-assured, from what I've seen.
Which is probably what her detractors fear the most.Continuity - She's also one tough cookie to endure all the abusr she gets.
Were I American, I would vote for her.Continuity - *abuseContinuity
- except she's not as uninformed as Palin, not by a long shot, and she's OBVIOUSLY smarter than hermonospaced
- Here's an interesting tidbit about her...when in high school, she won an international science competition and they named an asteroid after her. She is clearlyyuekit
- not dumb at all, especially when you consider how many total idiots there are in Congress who are more than twice her age.yuekit
- However if Fox News repeats something enough times, conservatives will start believing it.yuekit
- If you want to see a real dem idiot, I present you rep, hank johnson.
https://www.youtube.…BonSeff - what sort of trauma has robotron endured to be scared of women, colored people, democrats, etc. what a lonely soul he must be.dorf
- She's a woman and not white. That's all trumptards need to know to throw their hate at her.ben_
- shes said a lot so far. nothing reasonable or intelligent. perhaps shes smart like trump in knowing knowing rambling shit and portraying body language********
- or looking like you believe your own shit will get you followers... or crazy people lead fools all the time. A lot of it is just a confidence game. Humans********
- the LCD are wired by nature to follow anyone promising better since they are fools. hence mob rule failures of democracies********
- IE allthethings tosses out comments about her dumb/unprepared at misogyny. Clearly opinion without even attempt at support.********
- than a quote about a ham sandwich from her as telling it as it really is... again opinion, and a bit asinine. I see it as low brow way to spur idiots.********
- No clear connection to anything ACA related or obama and the outright not stating any tells me shes just playing the fools. But than again logic********
- and reason doesn't go far amongst the mob. Why shit floats and systems slowly decay and fail.********
- And that is why I find her stupid. Not on how she plays the game but that she has no substance to offer. Well except hand trump another victory********
- because trains across oceans are so fuckin brilliant... really ... cant believe sometimes i try to reason these things********
- lolmonospaced
- rail can't replace long distance international travel. GND refers to short distance - LA to SF, etc. how could a smart mind like yours not get that deathboy??dorf
- "Totally overhaul transportation by massively expanding electric vehicle
manufacturing, build charging stations everywhere, build out highspeed rail at a scale******** - where air travel stops becoming necessary, create
affordable public transit available to all, with goal to replace every combustion-engine vehicle" from the******** - horses mouth. to argue this nonsense... tell me economically if the plan made any sense and happened where would air travel prices be?********
- and not in any case is it feasible at all, knowing what powers electricity, and more dead lithium ions, the tax on the poor which it is, and overall economic********
- costs involved. again why she has never said anything smart. more up there with build a mile high wall to keep mexicans out. seeign who can lie the biggest********
- and logistics of air vs highspeed rail. we talking 110mph at what cost and is it cheaper than current travel and is it faster?********
- hmmmmmmmm no. why would a consumer want that? do consumers usually flog themselves for sense of better environment? here's episdoe 7 id recommend them all********
- https://www.youtube.…********
- and come on who blanket statements shit like "build out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary" that has any intelligence********
- gonna have to dig deep with her to find any substance, and even that is more than likely futile or accidental bandwagoning********
- R_Kercz1
Intercepted Podcast: The day after Mueller
https://theintercept.com/2019/03…- Also, here is the Taibbi writing that was referenced: https://taibbi.subst…R_Kercz
- this was as great episode. I need to finish, but it was a great take on a variety of things.mg33
- BonSeff4
Well, this was a fun exchange today
- that was a fine response.lowimpakt
- +1mathinc
- Brilliant. Only missing "At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"allthethings
- And Nunes just sits there, staring into space.allthethings
- Nunes is like, man I can't wait to be on Hannity later.BonSeff
- BonSeff2
The Creature from the Black Lagoon was present for the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources hearing confirmation
- ********4
- ********4
- lol********
- hahaha.capn_ron
- She's glowing in that photo.PhanLo
- Girl Shrek?sarahfailin
- be nice sarahfailin, you should be looking up to her. It says right there in the image.capn_ron
- MAGA LOLRamanisky2
- jordan peele should cast her , would be the greatest horror movie.neverscared
- lol
- nbq8
- MAGA LOLRamanisky2
- The lift clearly doesn't go all the way up to the penthouse there.Continuity
- Micheal Keaton in drag.fadein11
- BonSeff4
Totally on the same page
- BonSeff2
Talk about a criminal mastermind:
Trump just gave a huge gift to an alleged billion dollar Medicare fraudster
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-…
- BonSeff8
- what is with these strange contribution numbers? $11? $2? $35?capn_ron
- Ha!nb
- The numbers 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 frequently recurred in Lost. Each corresponded with one of the final candidates to replace Jacob as protector of the Island.monospaced
- catch 22. only way to beat tribalism is have a bigger tribe. quite a paradox********
- Gnash8
- 90 years old! A brilliant mind!Krassy
- Quite brilliant—although it doesn't take a brilliant mind (even 2 years ago) to know the Russia 'thing' w/pure shit—some folks (on qbn) still think it real—sad.PonyBoy
- But even sadder is the amount of elected officials (like Adam Schiff) that won't drop it... so much egg - not enough face.PonyBoy
- that is a weird looking logo... I mean, great interview but if you see the logo of their channel without context i bet you will block it :)Salarrue
- yay ponyboy likes socialists when they agree with him.fadein11
- Who said I don't 'like' socialists? I have nothing but love for the lot of you big-shoed, nose-honking clowns.
:PPonyBoy - much as I love Chomster, he is skipping some basic proven facts here.fadein11
- cultural marxism in ya face pony haha.fadein11
- what 'basic proven facts' did he skip? (not trying to fight... genuinely curious)PonyBoy
- regardless of Trump collusion Russia are way ahead in the online influence game right now, China and Russia are killing it.fadein11
- As he says the US are way more overt via invasion, assassination but Russia are playing the game way better than he let's on here.fadein11
- Huge amount of influence. And yes it's proven because online shit is measurable.
Don't get me wrong though, the Chomster is a dude, but I feel his argument herefadein11 - is blinded by historical US action. Much as the left in the UK have denied Russian influence in the recent poisonings, Brexit etc.fadein11
- As a 90 odd year old man I'm not sure he fully gets the influence of online shit. Or doesn't seem to here.fadein11
- also on a side issue, have any of the IDW attempted a debate with Noam? I'd buy that for a dollar. links pls if so.fadein11
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- ya, the 'chomptser' doesn't get how mass media works. lol.Gnash
- "regardless of Trump collusion"... you kinda lost me after that statement, fade... I thought you'd have Russia / Trump Collusion 'proven facts' for us. :(PonyBoy
- nope I don't and have never said I thought he colluded with them. It's proven they influenced voting in both the election of Trump and Brexit though.fadein11
- ********4
All that time spent talking about Russian collusion with Facebook ads?
Meanwhile Trump lies all day.