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- GeorgesII0
Not as thick as some of you think she is.
- hell of a horn section going on there. sweet one piece there lady.threadpost
- ********0
*bares toothless grin
Ame-ri-ca... ghyhy-hy ghyh
http://www.glumbert.com/media/dr…- Is that Palin?TheBlueOne
- at least she knows spain and the u.s. are allies. McCain on the other hand.....sofakingbanned
- That is INCREDIBLE!robotron3k
- SarahPalin0
Obama - "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
- Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop looking for ways to harm our countrymikotondria3
- and our people.
And neither do we.mikotondria3 - "Nope, no WMD's here either..."TheBlueOne
- SarahPalin0
- This picture is a fake
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And so are you.mikotondria3 - http://i185.photobuc…mikotondria3
- from the same photobucket album, weee rednecks! http://i197.photobuc…threadpost
- This picture is a fake
- SarahPalin0
- Like the monkey that you are, you're throwing poo at the wall. Well argued.TheBlueOne
- SarahPalin0
- Palin supporters - Like normal people, but with no interest in spelling 'whatsoever'. Or foreign policy. Or Science, or..mikotondria3
- heh, brilliant! get a brain morans!
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- ********0
Barack Hussein Obama
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar…Obama is for Obama Bin Laden, Hussein -- Saddam Hussein
what does Barack stand for?- Shut up, you little turd.mikotondria3
- this election is a loss-loss :(********
- twathallelujah
- learn to spell lose, fuckstickBonSeff
- "douchelord"hallelujah
- this election is a major lose for everyone********
- mikotondria30
You come on here and post that crap with the username 'Sarah Palin', and expect something other than utter derision.
Tell me, 'SarahPalin', exactly what is it about your proximity to the computer that gives you a valid opinion ?
Your answer must include such terms as 'south africa' and 'THE iraq', and so on, and such as.
- hallelujah0
Why Voters Thought Obama Won
TPM has the internals of the CNN poll of debate-watchers, which had Obama winning overall by a margin of 51-38. The poll suggests that Obama is opening up a gap on connectedness, while closing a gap on readiness.
Specifically, by a 62-32 margin, voters thought that Obama was "more in touch with the needs and problems of people like you". This is a gap that has no doubt grown because of the financial crisis of recent days. But it also grew because Obama was actually speaking to middle class voters. Per the transcript, McCain never once mentioned the phrase "middle class" (Obama did so three times). And Obama’s eye contact was directly with the camera, i.e. the voters at home. McCain seemed to be speaking literally to the people in the room in Mississippi, but figuratively to the punditry. It is no surprise that a small majority of pundits seemed to have thought that McCain won, even when the polls indicated otherwise; the pundits were his target audience.
- hallelujah0
"Of our 45 initial undecided voters, a quarter moved to Obama and a quarter to McCain after the debate with the rest remaining undecided. Moreover, by a 38 to 27 percent margin these voters said that Obama won this debate.
A look at the underlying numbers shows that Obama made important gains that could endure through Election Day. These undecided voters had a strong positive reaction to Obama on a personal level. Before the debate, just 40 percent viewed Obama positively, but this skyrocketed to 69 percent after the debate – a remarkable 29-point gain that left him more personally popular than McCain despite this group’s conservative leanings. He also made large strides on being seen as independent, from 44 percent to 65 percent. And in head-to-head matchups against McCain, Obama made significant gains on who "shares your values" and is "on your side."
McCain did not fair as well. His personal standing also improved, but not to nearly the same degree as Obama’s. And while he made impressive gains on being a "maverick," he actually lost slight ground on "offering a different path than Bush," showing that these gains were more about style than substance. "
- hallelujah0
CW-meister Mark Halperin, on PBS:
I thought Obama clearly did better. I thought he had a chance to show that he was calm and prepared and capable of standing toe to toe with the more experienced McCain. I thought McCain spoke too much Washington jargon, told too many jokes in shorthand, made too many comments he knew what he meant but I don't think he conveyed it necessarily to the audience overall. I thought Obama was the better communicator an did what he needed to do to reassure people.
Richard Wolffe, MSNBC:
That was the greatest contrast...the demeanor and the tone of voice that these candidates adopted where McCain was being much more pointed much more aggressive and curiously couldn't look Obama in the eye. Obama's tone much more straight and even keeled but ready to look his opponent in the eye repeatedly. A big contrast.
Eugene Robinson, Washington Post:
Here’s the politically incorrect way of phrasing one of the central questions about tonight’s presidential debate: Did John McCain come across as too much of a grumpy old man?
That might not be a nice question, but it’s an important one. Americans like to vote for the nice guy, not the grumbling prophet of doom. Throughout the 90-minute debate, McCain seemed contemptuous of Obama. He wouldn’t look at him. He tried to belittle him whenever possible -- how many times did he work “Senator Obama just doesn’t understand” into his answers? His body language was closed, defensive, tense. McCain certainly succeeded in proving that he can be aggressive, but the aggression came with a smirk and a sneer.
Marc Ambinder, The Atlantic:
McCain did not filter himself, letting his frustration and contempt for Obama show; he wouldn't let himself look at the challenger.
- mikotondria30
I thought that McCain looked a bit tweaked out to be honest. As if he had an unusual and bristling energy running through him that belied his regular level of attentiveness and concentration. The airforce still regularly and legally give their pilots 'go pills', similar to ritalin - dextroamphetamine and amphetamine sulphate, a long way from meth, but with similar effects - intense focus and energy to the detriment of more subtle social interaction. Sure you feel invincible, but actually come off as too talkative and inward looking, as if your inner dialog has herniated into the world and your usual editing and filtering judgments had taken some time off.
Although I'd be a long way from suggesting that McCain was under the influence of anything like that, his overly stilted 'performance' last night was evidently taking a huge toll of his concentration to just deliver the points that he'd rehersed, and there was little room left for unscripted sociability, which would include interacting directly with Barack - he was on all cylinders as it was - the mission: to deliver the agreed-upon performance of responses completely, correctly, and in detail, and return to base. In doing so he sacrified those subtle nuances of unscripted, natural human behavior that convey emotions such as compassion and even humor - vital signs that the speaker understands more, or has to capacity to deal with - more complex and difficult topics than those at hand, that the speaker has the ability and capacity not to be confused by thinking and talking about such things. John McCain was redlining it last night, through gritted teeth his went through his list of talking points by rote, whilst his opponent seemed to breeze through his responses, seemed to be thinking AND talking, creative and intellectual, focussed yet relaxed, and it's these qualities that people are responding to, and why it is he who can rightly claim the victory.And this I deduced entirely from watching the debate with the sound muted, whilst reading bed-time stories to my kid.
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- you are a geniushallelujah
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- locustsloth0
It's funny to see all the poll results on who won the debate and see that most of them say Obama. But then you go to drudge report and the poll is 67% to 30% in favor of McCain. i guess you really only see and hear what you want to.
- ********0
McCain looked like a senile old man at best!