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  • locustsloth0

    Lookie what's flying under the radar because of this hub-bub
    "Senate approves nuclear deal with India"
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS…

    "It was hustled through [the House of Representatives] without any hearings and without a vote in the House Foreign Affairs Committee," he said. "Here in the Senate, the Foreign Relations Committee held just one hearing with just one witness who spoke in support of the agreement."

    • What a great way to get Iran all fired up!
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    • And piss off Pakistan! You know, our friends in the fight against terrorism!DCDesigns
  • tommyo0

    “There is a kind of suggestion in the Paulson proposal that if only we provide enough money to financial markets, this problem will disappear. But that does nothing to address the fundamental problem of bleeding foreclosures and holes in the balance sheets of banks.” –Joseph Stiglitz (Nobel Laureate, Columbia University). September 26, 20083

  • lowimpakt0

    • support the law of the land so I can change it. "All o 'em, Katey"monkeyshine
  • GeorgesII0

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    • hahah I like the bleeps, makes the video way better.sofakingbanned
    • please feel free to email this to familly and friend, a soon to be pres shouldn't talk like a street thugGeorgesII
    • sweet jesusjanne76
    • Don't pass it around... it's fake --- http://www.youtube.c… I don't want you to look stupid... OBAMA 08brnmkg
  • BusterBoy0

    Mcain really is a dog. He's gone way down in my opinion. His "joke" about Chelsea Clinton being so ugly because Janet Reno was her father. From calling his wife a "cunt". Falling back to his POW days at every available opportunity. He's fallen into the slimeball bucket in my opinon.

  • TheBlueOne0

    This bailout sucks ass. I hope the House votes it down - again, And will the critical talking heads in the media stop calling it "socialism for the rich". There's actually a word for when government funds private industry on this scale with public monies - it's called "fascism".

    • +250BillBattleAxe
    • *yaaaawnnn * stretchhhh good morning. mmmm I guess it's time to fire up the fax machine and scare some CA Reps. :)tommyo
  • locustsloth0

    HAHA i love when idiots try to be smart

    (And in case the pic link doesn't work)
    http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Loc…

    • So he's a cheese cloth?TheBlueOne
    • Part cheese cloth, part hippie breakfast cereal, apparentlylocustsloth
    • Ah. So do I want to have a beer with him? That's all I need to know to judge my vote as an American.TheBlueOne
    • Sadly being President has become a popularity contest.DCDesigns
    • 300 years ago?rafalski
  • hallelujah0

    "Mike Judge, the creator of King of the Hill and Beavis & Butthead, once told a story on Letterman about how, one day, his Joe Six-pack next-door neighbor was inexplicably removing the back windshield from a 1978 Chevy Nova. So Judge walked out to the parking lot of his apartment building and asked the neighbor, "What are you doing?" And the neighbor gleefully answered, "Huh-huh-huh! Huh-huh! Now it's like a truck!"

    In the freakishly hamfisted world of Sarah Palin, Mike Judge's neighbor is qualified to be vice president of the United States.

    Yesterday, Palin said the following to talk radio wingnut Hugh Hewitt:

    "Oh, I think they're just not used to someone coming in from the outside saying you know what? It's time that a normal Joe Six-pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency, and I think that that's kind of taken some people off guard, and they're out of sorts, and they're ticked off about it."
    There's so much awfulness in this quote, it's difficult to know where to begin. Out of sorts? Ticked off? Oh you betcha.

    For the last eight dark years we've had a president who continues to be framed as a Joe Six-pack type. And it's been a disaster. No-one, at this point, is disputing the toxicity of the Bush presidency.

    Here's the difference, though, between President Bush's Joe Six-pack persona and Sarah Palin's. For better or worse, George Bush -- and I can't believe I'm writing this -- had attained a respectable level of schooling while also coming from a family deeply rooted in American politics. In other words, be it the fake Crawford "ranch" and his cowboy drag, George W. Bush is mostly pretending. He's "Joe Six-pack" insofar as he's running away from his silver-spooned, cheerleading, Skull & Bones background. That doesn't mean he's any less ignorant. He's still a disconnected, incompetent nothing. But at least he possesses something resembling the heft required of the office. And it's worth noting for the sake of context that he initially ran for president as the "guy you want to have a beer with" in 1999 and 2000 -- a time of relative peace and prosperity. Bored Americans figured, Whatever. Might as well.

    Sarah Palin, on the other hand, is, by all indications, a bonafide hooplehead -- so dangerously out of her depth and so delusional -- perhaps blinded by ambition -- that she is in total denial about the real-world ramifications of her ineptitude. Instead, she's excusing her embarrassing television interviews and farcical candidacy as an historical breakthrough for "normal Joe Six-pack Americans."

    Of course this is great news for the 27 percent who think Bushie is still doing a heckuva job. And I guess it's good news for anyone who wants to be president but doesn't want to go through all of that hard work and fancy book-learnin' to get there. But if there's one thing the history of this decade has taught us, it's that for the foreseeable future we should vigorously ignore the 27-percent-Bushies at all hazards -- or at least we shouldn't be encouraging them, as the McCain-Palin ticket appears to be doing.

    Normal Joe Six-pack Americans, she says.

    We learned the other night that Sarah Palin reads every periodical in existence. "All of 'em," she said. So she must know that we're engaged in two wars, while a third war is heating up with nuclear Pakistan, and a fourth with a potentially nuclear Iran. We're drowning in one of the worst financial meltdowns since the Great Depression. We have an energy crisis. A climate crisis. A Medicare crisis. A healthcare crisis. Crumbling infrastructure. Increasingly frequent natural disasters. And what about that guy who apparently rears his head over Alaska all the time like that weird Sunshine baby on the Teletubbies -- President Bush calls him Pooty Poot. What about him?

    Compound all of this with the fact that Senator McCain is 72-years-old and then ask anyone who will listen: Do we really want a "normal Joe Six-pack American" sitting in the Oval Office in January tasked with managing these problems?

    No wonder everyone is ticked off. And Senator McCain, knowing all of this (as well as the average heights of Koreans apparently), acquiesced to the far-right by selecting Sarah Palin anyway, just prior to launching a general election campaign centered on the ridiculously incongruous theme of "Country First."

    If John McCain was really interested in putting country first, he would ask Sarah Palin to step off.

    Palin herself appears to be, as I said, too ambitious to voluntarily step off, so it really comes down to McCain. What'll it be, Senator? For the good of the country as well as its increasingly buffoonish reputation, you have to do this. Of course you won't, but it's worth a shot. Just putting country first here. By the way, I bet with this economic meltdown, Mitt's looking awfully good about now, eh?

    In a greater sense, Sarah Palin, in her ungainly scramble to justify her total lack of quality, is inadvertently revealing a startling lack of patriotism. The vice presidency is chiefly about being ready and able to take over the office of the presidency. Subsequently, the presidency is a position of enormous historical and national importance, requiring the very best America has to offer -- especially now. Idealistically, it's a position of merit and a title of great honor. Not necessarily the grandiose, kingly role envisioned by founders like John Adams and Alexander Hamilton, but heretofore an office of significant prestige. So by suggesting that just any "normal Joe Six-pack American" can do it not only insults and diminishes the office, but it also insults and diminishes Sarah Palin.

    Of course Sarah Palin probably doesn't realize that in suggesting that just any ignorant hoople can be vice president, she's not only suggesting that she herself is an ignorant hoople but, most importantly, that she can be easily replaced by any ignorant hoople plucked by the mullet out of any random monster truck rally. In other words, it's a frivolous position open to anyone who can read a teleprompter without choking on his or her own tongue.

    I mean, is she seriously advocating for equal job opportunities for Joe Six-pack? It's about time, she seems to have said, that normal Joe Six-pack Americans were in control of our most important and most complicated jobs. Joe Six-pack presidents. Joe Six-pack astronauts. Joe Six-pack police detectives. Joe Six-pack surgeons.

    Imagine being wheeled into surgery for a triple bypass and just before they push the anesthesia, you see Sarah Palin walk into the operating theater with a hatchet. A nurse offers her some sterile gloves and she blurts out, "Thanks, but no thanks! Oh I love doin' amputations!"

    Scary. But it's about time, right?

    The presidency, as we've learned the hard way, matters. An incompetent chief executive, no matter how he or she has been packaged, tends to breed disaster. There was a time when we could rest assured knowing that, even if the president wasn't all there, he was surrounded by competent people who could grab the wheel if he blacked out. But those who are supporting the Republican ticket based on superficial appeal need to ask themselves: since when has the word "competent" been used to describe the current batch of operatives surrounding John McCain and Sarah Palin? These are the same handlers who camp up with the laughable "Alaska is right next to Russia" line. Put it another way, the man who first coined that line was Steve Doocy.

    In the real world -- a world in which America needs serious people making our most serious decisions -- Alaska's proximity to Russia has less to do with national security experience than a '78 Nova without its back windshield has to do with a truck. It's just not. Likewise, Joe Six-pack, while qualified for many decent jobs (governor of Alaska, too, I guess), is simply not qualified for our highest national office. Sorry, Joe! And sorry, Sarah. You're just not up for this, regardless of what you've tricked yourself into believing."

    • Very well said! But she does read all the newspapers and she went to a lot of colleges, 5 in 6 years!!!DCDesigns
    • She can't name a single newspaper and WTF?? on going to 5 colleges in 6 years!!!DCDesigns
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    Looks like the shite is hitting the fan back home. People have asked me , "Have you heard....?" And I respond "I don't care, I don't want to hear anything about the states now."

    Looking forward to coming home, but not to this.

    • When are you coming back?TheBlueOne
    • on monday
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  • hallelujah0

    "I think John McCain's anger is about to reach the boiling point - with disastrous results for his presidential campaign. If he had any sort of sense whatsoever, he would realize that this palpable anger is not doing him any favors and is probably negatively impacting his favorability.

    The New York Times' Caucus blog reports that McCain is so angry he can't stand to look Obama in the eye or shake his hand on the Senate floor:

    It was Senator Barack Obama who crossed the aisle. As the senators gathered to vote on the $700 billion financial rescue package on Wednesday evening, Mr. Obama walked over to the Republican side of the chamber to extend a greeting to Senator John McCain.

    He got a chilly response. While it took Mr. Obama several seconds to make his way over to see his rival, Mr. McCain barely pivoted his body as he took Mr. Obama’s hand for a handshake that lasted just a moment. The eye contact was just as brief.

    And Joe Klein of TIME in a new article this morning:

    A few hours before the house of Representatives smacked down the financial-bailout package, I watched John McCain — eyes flashing, jaw clenched, oozing sarcasm and disdain — on the attack in Ohio: "Senator Obama took a very different approach to the crisis our country faced. At first he didn't want to get involved. Then he was 'monitoring the situation.' That's not leadership; that's watching from the sidelines." And I thought of Karl Rove. Back in 2003, at the height of Howard Dean mania, Rove was skeptical about Dean's staying power as a candidate: "When was the last time Americans elected an angry President?"

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    • nice site and I love the linking out to Obama so you see 2 sides.moveinspace
  • joeth0

    This is kind of a response to kona's post (a couple pages back) about Obama chanting in rural Illinois... Wisconsin is just north of Obama's home state of IL, and usually leans Democratic, but this year WI is a battleground state. Yesterday, I had the pleasure of driving 3.5 hrs through rural northern Wisconsin and saw a LOT of McCain signs. Not one Obama sign. Where I live, in Milwaukee, I can see that most favor Obama, but definitely not a huge majority.

    I know changing the mind's of the rural folk is pretty tough. But I'm wondering if there are others out there that live in battleground states, and what they're doing to influence their undecided friends/neighbors. I've been volunteering a few Saturdays for the Obama campaign by going door-to-door, and I point out all the stupidity of the GOP to my conservative friends. I'm wondering what else you guys are doing or what we could be doing besides preaching to the choir on a design forum? I'm thinking about printing up a bunch of stickers to hand out to college students. Any other ideas?

  • TheBlueOne0

    The guy was right ten years ago, he's right today (watch the video):

    http://bigpicture.typepad.com/co…

  • TheBlueOne0

    "Tonight's CBS Evening News finally covered what may well be the November Surprise that we've been trying to warn about for months...: Massive voter roll purges being done in secret, with little or no oversight, and often under federal Justice Department cover, in states and counties around the country."

    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6453

    More and more like a banana Republic every day...

    • ban a republican
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    • They are trying to steal another election!!!

      DCDesigns
  • janne760

    oh my god, your retarded democracy is so much entertainment for us euro-pussies!! haha..

    • Europe knows who daddy is....robotron3k
    • we know.. daddy is in a wheelchair, wearing a leather helmet, drooling..janne76
    • oh wait.. you mean europe is dad? hahah... in that case we shouldn't have been pro-life hahajanne76
    • nope, dad is in wheelchair like you said...robotron3k
    • you call this fun?hallelujah
  • BattleAxe0

    Lost all Respect for Obama here, looks like Indy vote it is

    "There's no doubt that there may be other plans out there that, had we had two or three or six months to develop ... might serve our purposes better," said Obama during the floor debate. "But we don't have that kind of time. And we can't afford to take a risk that the economy of the United States of America and, as a consequence, the worldwide economy could be plunged into a very, very deep hole."

    "had we had two or three or six months to develop ... might serve our purposes better" WTF people have been warning us for years! Fuck the Senate , No Confidence !! Let the markets eat shit

    • oh okMimio
    • no my friend its you who will eat shit not the market
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    • yeah, go for indy vote, it will really make a fucking difference!! //janne76
    • Indie votes are exactly what the GOP wants you to do.joeth
    • brillianthallelujah
    • I dont care , I dont vote for lesser evils and yes it will be all my fault taht McCain wins cause I vote IndyBattleAxe
    • "There's no doubt that there may be other plans out there" well then....BattleAxe
    • he gave into the FearBattleAxe
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    Most of those I encountered had watched at least part of the Friday night debate, but no one said or implied that it had been a mind-changer. The very first person I met, Bill Walker of Clarkston, told me he had voted for President Bush twice but now was leaning strongly toward Obama.

    Why? "The country is going downhill," he said. "The economy is terrible. My wife is a schoolteacher and I'm a school building engineer, so we haven't been laid off. But when people can't find work, they can't pay their taxes, and that will affect us."

    I asked about the debate and, despite his preference, Walker said he found Obama "hesitating in his answers," while McCain gave "strong answers and did quite well."

    But he, like others, was bothered by the fact that "McCain did not want to look at the man [Obama]. You have to talk to people or you'll never make up your differences," he said.

  • mg330

    joeth,

    Maybe I'm just not so knowledgeable about this, but I always wonder why rural America so strongly identifies with Republicans and conservatives.

    Is it the disconnect from urban centers, major media markets, and accessibility to a wider range of culture and opinion?
    Is it something the Republicans have done for rural America in the past that has made them strong supporters? if so, what?
    Is it the guns issue, and wanting to support a party that won't "take away" their guns?

    I, like plenty of people, tend to have the feeling that much of rural America is middle class and lower class - the people that Republicans don't really seem to give two cents about in comparison to the upper class, rich crowd. So what is the reason? Tradition? What accounts for this huge swath of red swath of the country in the electoral projection map?

    http://www.electoral-vote.com/

    BTW - look at it this week - they have Obama at 338 electoral votes to McCain's 185. Wow.

    • racehallelujah
    • Republicans began taking up Democratic "themes" in the mid-70srobotron3k
    • and, also, racehallelujah
    • I was thinking about that a lot on the drive. I think it's a lot of things... guns, religion, race... you know conservative "values"joeth
    • They're so caught up in these "values" that they can't see who is actually the more Christian party in terms of treating people fairly, and who actually benefits themjoeth
    • ... people fairly, and who actually would benefit them.joeth
    • raceTheBlueOne
    • education level as wellDCDesigns
  • robotron3k0

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