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- And Bitcoin hasn't seen 16600 ever again since he tweeted that. Now at or below 8K.********
- those of you that did not cared enough to proof your tweet.dbloc
- Can't wait until he eats his dick: https://www.theinqui…********
- He's just talking his book. McAfee was trying to get investors for a bitcoin mining facility some time back.monNom
- How could there not be a massive sell off when the value doubles overnight?sarahfailin
- Exactly. Especially on something valued only by how many people want it and nothing more.monospaced
- that's how everything materialistic is valued, crypto is no differentMilan
- it's differentmonospaced
- And Bitcoin hasn't seen 16600 ever again since he tweeted that. Now at or below 8K.
- sarahfailin0
I just got an account set up and I'm gonna be poised to buy me some ethereum after this shit bottoms out.
looks like we haven't hit bottom yet.
https://www.coindesk.com/why-bit…
- detritus0
Meanwhile I've spent the last few evenings perusing 'shit' on Alibaba and working out what the mark up would be on items I sold over here in Londonistan.
It's the same fundamentals as Bitcoin - cheap Chinese energy converted into valueSomethings and exchanged for Western $H£K£L - except there're actual somethings for the money.
I might take the plunge - I've been wanting to dip my toe in Chinese tat trading for a while now.
- tat trading?sarahfailin
- Well, not quite tat, I'm just being self-consciously dismissive... .detritus
- There's something I want for myself that I've priced up retail here, and making here - i found cheaper versions for both ops on AliBaba, which I could modifydetritus
- have you had any issues dropshipping?Gnash
- Bitcoin keyrings?shapesalad
- Oh, I've not even started yet - and I wouldn't be drop-shipping, more direct reselling after modifying.detritus
- I recently caught a client out who used the alarmbell term "start up" in relation to their small biz - they had some obvious gaps in knowledge ...detritus
- ...which prompted me to search on Alibaba for the 'unique handmade items' they were claiming to make here, and lo, there they were. At very low prices.detritus
- I was at first bemused by their chutzpah and then niggled by the thought "well, if they can, why can't I?". I just wouldn't ever refer to myself as a 'startup'.detritus
- The other alarmbell term in emails is when people refer to themselves as an 'entrepreneur'. "Aye, lass, I'm sure you think that. Ya spoilt shmuck".detritus
- Oh, and 'Atelier'. If I had a penny for every spoilt rich-parented daughter who'd started an 'atelier' on the flimsiest of concepts, I'd have.. ooh, about 20p.detritus
- I got things dropshipped from Aliexpress to Amazon for a couple of months. It was definitely profitable until couple of sellers setn wrong items or shipped lateBeeswax
- and Amazon blocked my account, That was the end of my adventure.Beeswax
- How are you going to know what sells before placing bulk orders? Because I sold over 20 items and most unexpected ones were the best sellers like flower potsBeeswax
- Well, I won't! :) I know that I want one and that there's a market for them here, and i can minimum order at not too high a number. Beyond that, it's all beliefdetritus
- sarahfailin0
What would you say the best place is to get news and charts on cryptocurrency performance? Esp. Ethereum and BTC?
- Astrologistmonospaced
- boxmining & nodeinvestor youtube channels are pretty goodinteliboy
- Chart: https://coinmarketca…DRIFTMONKEY
- ********1
Buh-bye. Bitcoin/ crypto HODL Party's over ☺️
- ridg0026-2
- cryptocurrency is NOT money tho! LOL!chukkaphob
- probably due to folks buying bitcoins via credit cards, bitcoin halves in value, bank tired of defaulters.shapesalad
- that toochukkaphob
- lol, my bank won't accept my monopoly money or my beanie baby collection as collateral!monospaced
- ^ right? LOLchukkaphob
- It's YOUR money. You're ok with a bank censoring what you're allowed to spend your own money on?! That's ridiculous. The balls on these bastards ...ridg0026
- Take note that its not just credit cards either, which I concede is within their rights to do. But debit cards? Overreach is an understatement.ridg0026
- credit is their money, however blocking debit transactions is not cooldrgs
- Making it harder for skimmed cards to get drained. Probably a good thing.monNom
- Many banks blocks crypto now. Cuz people are losing shit tons of money by going blind into a non-sense thing they have no idea about.Bennn
- maybe because they can't insure purchases of something with no value?monospaced
- don't do business with these cunts?Milan
- ********0
Wassa Wassaaa Wasssaaaaaa!
- sarahfailin0
I just took the plunge and bought 2.4 ethereum ~ :0
- That's like $1K'ish? You're not going anywhere like that.********
- well we should only invest what we can afford to lose :Psarahfailin
- we have not yet hit the bottom, but its very close. crypto market has to puke the last time to feel betterdrgs
- good purchaseBeeswax
- That's like $1K'ish? You're not going anywhere like that.
- detritus0
'The Bitcoin Blues'
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This guy is such a fraud & pumper. For a mere $105,000, John McAfee will tweet about your cryptocurrency: https://www.marketwatch.com/Stor…
- https://steemit-prod…pablo28
- ^ lol! loonKrassy
- Well, if people are daft enought to base investment decisions on one of his tweets, that's their problem. I'd cynically do the same were I in his shoes.detritus
- haha this comment had it right
http://www.qbn.com/r…yuekit - another comment that is pure gold: http://www.qbn.com/r…Krassy
- Bennn7
Just took a look at my holdings, been many days since I checked it. .... Holly Sh! I lost a lot LOL
I lost 85,6% of my initial investment!
Cryptoz are shit!
- Sorry man, I hate that feelingMondoMorphic
- How much in $$ is all your investment?********
- Not much. I was testing and learning about Crypto. Less than 500$ I'll let it all sleep and hope it goes back up one day, and over 500$ ..Bennn
- Sure thing, I'll never play with Crypto again, its all shit. Its litterally a lottery.Bennn
- well... you bought at all time high, pretty much the worst time to buy.dyspl
- 500 is nothing.********
- buy high, sell low. that's the winning strategy.sarahfailin
- Just buy index's and hodl till you retireshapesalad
- It wasn't an investment, it was a speculationdetritus
- You bought at the very topdrgs
- That's brutal but at least you didn't put too much into it. Personally I would just let it sit a few years at this point.pinkfloyd
- #HODLGANGmonospaced
- I have some magic beans if you want to buy some.face_melter
- Should of sold when I told you so 4-5 months ago. When I sold my Bitcoin I made a massive killing!utopian
- love the upvotes :Dsted
- nice, how much did you make utopian?Milan
- Think of all the months of Adobe CC you could've had w/that wasted money, Bennny. XDPonyBoy
- lolmonospaced
- I have been spending all my free money on crypto purchase for 2 months now.Polisz
- Check this https://mpk.impak.ec…Salarrue
- Just HODLDL man, HDLDL. You'll be a gazillionaire within a year.yuekit
- You bought in thinking you were going yi get rich quick, just like lots of other people. That's not really the aim nor the concept behind cryptocurrency********
- Sell before it goes into the negative numbers, you will then owe them money.
Buy those magic beans with what you can recover now.
Don't never change.******** - So do change?********
- like i said i'll let that sleep in hope everything went crazy again in the future, cuz for now everything goes downer than downBennn
- Ethereum is up 10% today and 23% in a week.fadein11
- anyway didnt you spend 50 on transaction feesdrgs
- sarahfailin2
My wager: cryptocurrencies will be close to where they were at their peak again by the end of this year. Then they will crash again down to about 10-20% above where they are now.
It peaks and declines but is following a gradual trendline upwards. as more and more companies and individuals find use and value in it, total crypto market cap will continue to increase
- why would all cryptos move up? just because?monospaced
- The rise so far has nothing to do with companies finding any use for cryptos. At all. Not even a little.monospaced
- the total market cap of all cryptos has a strong upward trend over its entire existence. whether it's bitcoin or other, more ppl are putting more $ in crypsarahfailin
- why have cryptos been rising (and crashing) for the last 8 years? i dont know, i might even agree all of it is useless, but its still a way to make moneydrgs
- Doubt it. Rise before was based on the global coverage and fools jumping in.shapesalad
- There's a limited # of people into crypto's = limit total amount of capital to invest. Each month new ICO / coins = capital spread thinlyshapesalad
- + people have been burnt on last years hyped rise = bitcoin etc not likely for a long time to reach least years peak.shapesalad
- not saying it won't retrace a bit, bit won't go past the peak level of last year. Would need a different element to do that. War perhaps.shapesalad
- This trend line would reach the highest historical market capitalization amount (so far) in just 2 years ;)sarahfailin
- drgs2
All coins are pumping, seems like 3 months long bear run is over
- fadein110
Pigzbe cryptocurrency system designed for children
Kids can use “Wollos” to understand the value of money in the Pigzbe world, which has been designed by a team including Jon Marshall and branded by Studio.Build.
- The logo is ugly as arseholes, but the the UI is nice...********
- so tired of flat vector graphics using primary shapes, will there ever be an end to that grotesque style?shapesalad
- I posted it more for the idea tbhfadein11
- hence why it's in this thread.fadein11
- Using primary shapes makes sense for kids lolJaline
- The logo is ugly as arseholes, but the the UI is nice...
- dyspl0
up from 12 to 25% on the top 3 currencies since yesterday... Bennn tell me you sold everything yesterday :)
- I wont touch shit 'till I triple up m8Bennn
- It’s just people buying low. It’s not based on anything but demand. Lol.monospaced
- you mean, like anything else? you seem to be happy paying apple product for way more than they're worth for exemple...:)dyspl
- you say that based on what exactly?monospaced
- My AAPL investments have been great to me, and it's based on actual performance of a real company, not the equivalent of monopoly money, like cryptomonospaced
- my point is that if you believe that traditional trading is any less of a gambling you're in for some surprise.dyspl
- speaking of apple, its performance has a company is not in correlation with its product performance butdyspl
- the irrational afect people have with apple stuff. so if you think about it the share price is not backed by much more than people belief.dyspl
- predictable mono with the fud.inteliboy
- fud? I think not. Smart investing and dumping money into crypto are very different and you can’t argue otherwise without sounding naive.monospaced
- cryptos aren’t a business, so it’s not really comparable like you’re attempting to make them out to bemonospaced
- And if you think aapl performance is just because of a perception over product then you truly are either naive or purely ignorant.monospaced
- Ironically, it’s the cryptos that have no real value beyond a perception, but go ahead and keep that pyramid tall, happy at the bottom of it all :)monospaced
- Fact is, aapl stock is undervalued and there’s hard evidence for that which is easily quantified. You can’t say that about crypto with any confidence. LOL!!!monospaced
- you kind of missed my point mono, but hey don't hesitate to call me naive or ignorant at any given time.dyspl
- all of the above said is true, but why care? get the money while getting is gooddrgs
- I didn’t miss your point.monospaced
- There’s no way to predict a crypto rise.monospaced
- drgs1
Hey hey hey. Hey hey hey. Hey hey hey. Wassa-wassa-wassa-wassa-wassa-wa... Bitcoin!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/a…
Bitcoin’s dog days are over, says one of the biggest cryptocurrency hedge funds.
Pantera Capital Management, which has more than $800 million in assets, says $6,500 was the low of this bear market and Bitcoin will stay above that price for the majority of the next year, likely surpassing the previous record of almost $20,000, according to a note sent to investors Thursday.
- dyspl5
Mono, I'm going to make my point a bit more clear, so you get it and don't feel the need to be condescending : your no fucking Georges soros.
You're just a regular guy who puts some of his money in companies shares, and that's all there is to it, calling it "smart investment" like it's a sure thing is foolish.
Remember 2007?
I'm not saying crypto is a sure thing, far from it, I'm just saying you play the same guessing game.You're like a guy betting on horses, who thinks it's a sure thing as he has a "system", dissing people playing roulette.
- lol, right okay. okay sorry about condescending. you did start making fun of me and I got a bit defensive.monospaced
- have fun getting rich, I wish you best of luck with your predictions and outlook. LOL amazingmonospaced
- Dude, where did you read I was planning on getting rich? Telle me where I wrote that.dyspl
- Want to know what I consider "smart investment" as a designer? Learn new software, keep getting better at your trade.dyspl
- Want to make money? Work your ass off, take extra freelance.dyspl
- "Investing" at our level and yours, is just another hobby. You play with your money, and that's it.dyspl
- I wasn't, I'm just having fun. Relax :)monospaced
- FYI, my "smart" investing over the last 25 years got me through the 2008 crisis perfectly fine. It's not just a hobby, it's a huge part of my worth.monospaced
- All I'm saying is that crypto is not the same kind of investing as a long term managed fund with real companies. That's all. It's too volatile to be predictablemonospaced
- Investing with companies that publish yearly reports and prospectus' is NOT "betting on horses." it's WAY more secure than crypto, by any measuremonospaced
- @mono, out of interest how much have you got in Apple? A lot I presume if dividends are paying well. Just interested.fadein11
- not that much really, not enough to make dividends a big deal in the long run, but enough to use on a rainy day for something meaningfulmonospaced
- I think I had like 60k on apple stocks back in 2012. I would have to check online.pinkfloyd
- I'm too chicken to fuck with cryptos.monospaced
- I think people are making their money on short term currently, that's what I did after xmas, it was going up 30-40% a week (Ether). in out job. takes balls butfadein11
- you won't get returns like that anywhere else ever. the market is going up, great time to buy. but beware of the HODL (unless happy to wait years)fadein11
- but what do I know, I'm not complaining though :)fadein11
- who gives a fuck if its worthless when making $$$... its not trad investment. its risky and volatile, hence the potential rewards.fadein11
- also, I agree with everything dyspl sayspinkfloyd
- nothing he's saying or assuming about me is true, thoughmonospaced
- ^"have fun getting rich, I wish you best of luck with your predictions and outlook. LOL amazing" seems like you are the one assuming things :)dyspl
- check that thread, and point where I've put any prediction or shit like that. I haven't even posted on it until today.dyspl
- I was just joking about bennn freaking out, and you had to go on with your iamverysmart posture... that's all.dyspl
- lol, I already apologized for that, and recognized you didn't say thatmonospaced
- your schtick about my investments being only a gamble and not smart is simply not true, thoughmonospaced
- cryptos you can compare to the lottery more than a stock pickmonospaced
- investing in shares you basically sponsor and help people to develop their idea into this world, with crypto i dont even know where the money godrgs
- rightmonospaced
- an educated guess, is still... a guess. I'm not arguing about the fact you did your due diligence and alldyspl
- but the truth is that you have no control over what happens, no control over any decisions those companies make etc..dyspl
- and in that, it's still the same a crypto. granted crypto is highly volatile, but at least people here have no illusion regarding that fact.dyspl
- that's my point ... a guess with a stock pick IS educated ... with a crypto it's not much more than a blind guessmonospaced
- guess/gamble... see what I did?dyspl
- Yes. But they aren’t the same, not remotely, and everything you said about my investing and assumed about me is false or just imagined.monospaced
- Educated stock picks based on research, prospectus and trends is smart compared to buying crypto on hype. Therefore your comparison is nonsense.monospaced
- Because if they were just gambling, then I wouldn’t have had predictable gains for the last 25 years.monospaced
- ...I didn't say anything about your investing, you made money, good for you :)
you just seem to negate the risky nature of it while pointing it out in cryptodyspl - and make it into an argument about how stupid it is compared to your thing, which is in his core the same...dyspl
- would it all go away if I said you were smart mono? like as much as your investment? It's all good in the end, it doesn't really matter.dyspl
- do what makes you happy, and let it go.dyspl
- and for the record, I'm not saying YOUR investments or actions are dumb. I'm just inherently convinced that trading in all it's form is dangerous.dyspl
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- https://www.wired.co…
crazy shit. Want to see the documentary now.Beeswax - Don't know how anyone can give McAfee a platform to speak fromatomholc
- https://www.wired.co…
- imbecile-1
not bitcoin but crypto / blockchain related just the same
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Samsung is bringing crypto and blockchain tech closer to its core business
- why the down vote?shapesalad
- of course they are. Samsung do and make absolutely fucking everything that has a source of electricity.inteliboy