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- mort_1
The new Mackie Onyx mixers look interesting for small synth / drum machine studios. Multi-track streaming into your DAW over USB. I know there are other mixers that do this but not 24 tracks for ~ $800. Wondering how the A/D converters might compare with my Focusrite Clarett converters.
- I've been eyeing up the Softube Console 1 + Fader as an alternative to an analogue mixer and think it's probably the better way to go.mort_
- Along with some additional inputs via ADAT expansion.mort_
- Still running a 1220i over FW 400 into Catalina. But, I'll just tale a look to make sure it's not for me ...emphor
- prophetone1
Well there it is, Behringer’s gray 2600 w/ spring reverb to boot
- The Vermona PerFOURmer appeals to me more and has a better price tag.mort_
- *better price tag than the Karp.mort_
- I think these are $700usdprophetone
- eh, I'd still get the regular one. I do like that blue color, though.section_014
- mg330
What are any of you with home studios doing for acoustic treatments? We've just gotten done painting our basement and doing some other things down here, and I'm starting to work on sound treatment ideas for a room that has two music areas: a long wall and entertainment center with stereo speakers facing a couch to listen to records, and a wall perpendicular to that with computers, recording monitors, and desktop speakers.
Been debating reflectors on the back wall, or absorption panels that might make for a nice design on the wall. Any thoughts?
https://www.amazon.com/TroyStudi…Or this, which will look better than columns of those diffusers:
https://feltright.com/products/s…There's a third option to do printed fabric panels with absorption material beneath them, which will be the most expensive, but certainly the best looking.
- I need to do some treatment too and haven’t really looked into it yet. I do know there are different reasons for using diffusers vs absorbers vs bass traps etc.mort_
- As in they treat different problems.mort_
- mort - happy to share some info.
https://www.gikacous…mg33 - Oh nice one. Thx! Sorry, I hope My comment didn’t come across as condescending. You know more than me about this I imagine.mort_
- Didn’t take it that way at all! :)mg33
- Ianbolton1
- Yepmort_
- I met Peter a few times in Berlin, he was ok but a bit of a dick if I was being truthful.. but that doesn’t excuse behringers actionsautoflavour
- autoflavour0
I feel dirty.
Behringer dropped the prices across the board and the TD3 was on $155AUD..It’s as plastic and underwhelming as anticipated.. but I just found a modding PDF with all the hacks and mods..
Still, feel like I’m supporting the devil
- I have Behringer Truths as my monitors. I guess I'll see you in hell.mort_
- I do too, but fuck it. This, the Model D, the Pro-1, all sound amazing. Roland had every chance to remake the 303/808/909, but did it a vst in a box instead.section_014
- Have a couple of the Roland boutiques alongside my analogue gear. They sound amazing and I honestly don't wish they were analogue.mort_
- the se-2 is a hell of a machinehans_glib
- The one analog boutique!mort_
- Isn't the TD-3 more ore less a 1:1 Roland 303 clone?jagara
- TD-3 Features "Authentic reproduction of original circuitry with matched transistors". Dunno, just quoting...jagara
- @section_014, they remade all of those, twice.fadein11
- ooooh Behringer truths.. I gave mine to my wife after I was unable to sell them.. no shade, but the name is hella misleading. doing AB with the Yamaha HS80autoflavour
- I replaced them with, honestly, you get a more accurate reference using iPhone speaker.autoflavour
- Yeah. I like them for listening and mixing records etc but am aware of the colouration. Will replace at some stage.mort_
- autoflavour2
Been smashing it in the studio the past few weeks.. all killer, no filler ..
Been focusing on dawless takes of parts, using outboard sequencers and always using a additional device (filter, analogheat)
Make something, move to next sound.
So so liberating.. no revisions, no endless changed record like 64 bars of different takes of the same thing, then pick the best and move onSo quick
- I need to take your advice... I think about the "make a sound, move on" approach a lot, and the simplicity of not playing end-to-end guitar parts.mg33
- Love hearing about different processes. What are you recording the parts with?mort_
- its all still going into Ableton, its not dawless in that regard, but I try and do as little as possible in abledroid..autoflavour
- but basically, start with a beat (usually just a kick and hit hat on off beat.. then I pick a synth to work with.. usually try and switch it up each song.autoflavour
- either try and play something or record it into a step sequencer. or draw some simple half bar or 1 bar pattern in Ableton and then just play around on synthautoflavour
- get to somewhere it sound good, press record in Ableton, record 4 bars of the thing, no fiddling with controls, just straight. then record second take for 5minautoflavour
- just fucking around, occasionally adding a extra note on the keyboard, changing patches, just messing around. once I am happy with what I have, I then go backautoflavour
- into Ableton, go thru and find some good 2-4 bar loops from that, maybe do a little bit of clip automation, still all in live view. once I'm happy, start nextautoflavour
- rinse and repeat until you have at least 5-6 parts .. then start working out what goes with what, what can be soloed, what can revised. but its all audio by nowautoflavour
- so its only just rough editing. then I usually get a reasonable flow happening, open a new track, set it to resampling, and just record like 10 minutes of meautoflavour
- live mixing the session.. there is always mistakes and happy accidents. I then take that stereo resampled file and rough edit a track out it in session view..autoflavour
- by this stage, its usually 3am and I go to bed and start a new track the next dayautoflavour
- plan is always to the use that rough resampled edit as the template to go back and actually build the song, but often I just go with what I have..autoflavour
- Nice. Been thinking along the same lines. Basically using Ableton as a tape recorder and committing to parts as audio.mort_
- Rather than trying to keep every instrument tweakable.mort_
- Appreciate the explanation. Thanks man!mort_
- For the moment, I've decided to mostly keep effects in the box, with the exception of the Analog Heat and a couple of pedals.mort_
- analogheat is a sleeper purchase.. I had one and sent it back after 3 weeks. then I got another 2 years later.. been using it for clean boost, saturation etc..autoflavour
- only slightly tho, no crazy distortion, just enough to add a bump to the mix.. its become my go to for most thingsautoflavour
- Yeah same. Been using it mostly on the TR8S. Great combo.mort_
- mort_3
Disco patch cables. Finally.
- Just what my rack needs, more blinking lights.section_014
- ...said the actress to the bishophans_glib
- LOLmort_
- Linky:
https://producertool…mort_ - yeah as if modular wasnt already Blinky blonky enoughautoflavour
- imbecile0
Most of Native Instruments’ shares have sold. What could it mean for Traktor?
https://djtechtools.com/2021/01/…
In a new turn of events this year, a massive portion of Native Instruments’ shares have been sold to the Francisco Partners investing firm. It’s been no secret that NI’s higher-ups have been debating reducing their ownerships, ever since Traktor was almost sold to Allen and Heath last year.
- prophetone1
- i really dig the make noise stuff, great little drone synthprophetone
- Loving the 0 Coast. It really encourages experimentation. I don't understand what's going on half the time which makes for interesting patching surprises. :)mort_
- Strega designers on Knob Twiddlers Hangout atm https://youtu.be/BR_…mort_
- epigraph1
So this is the state of things. Made some furniture to get things positioned where I want. Been messing around with all this gear in mini setups for months and everything works the way I want. Now I need to hook it up proper so everything its 24/7 live and acessible.
I have three 24 channel patchbays so covered there. Made a diagram of all the point to point audio connections I want as a base setup and its 50 ish cables.... which if I run them all into a patchbay is 100 ish cables.
Currently own four 8 channel hosa snakes. I really dont want to spend another $300 on hosa snakes.
Any insight on how to source or build dirt cheap 6ft long 1/4" TS cables? I gather they need to be coaxial, correct?
Also am I crazy? Is this too many audio cables?
- years ago i bought a roll of cable and a load of jack plugs and spent a dreary few hours cutting and soldering, binding the lot together with gaffer tape.hans_glib
- amazingly they still all work.hans_glib
- What kind of music do you make with such a sweet setup?shapesalad
- Personally I'd be making an album in this style https://www.youtube.…shapesalad
- Nice hans.... I bet it gets a bit zen after a while. Luckily I found that sweetwater had 6ft hosa snakes for $18 vs Amazons $27 and grabbed a bunch.epigraph
- Currently the stuff Im churning out has a lo fi jazz vibe. Im really focusing on improvisational leads lately.epigraph
- mort_3
Samples From Mars are having a sale. Everything for $39. I have their drumkits. All quality stuff.
- well worth the investment! got the 'everything' sale last year.microkorg
- thanks for the heads up!cassiellux
- Nice. I've just bought this, so let's make some mental synthwave weirdness!Ianbolton
- mort_0
Seriously, Behringer?
“If you take a closer look at the trademarks under Oberheim, you can see that Tom Oberheim is still the owner of the brand Oberheim. MusicTribe (Behringer) tried to take over the name in 2018. In 2019, Behringer won a lawsuit against Tom Oberheim and was able take over the brand name. However, they have also the rights to the name Behringer Oberheim. So the name change of the synth clone would make more sense. Interestingly, Tom Oberheim has applied for the OB-Xa trademark last year. Probably to protect the name and this legacy. For this reason, it’s strange that Behringer renames the UB-Xa to OB-Xa.“
- autoflavour0
picked up a moogerfooger phaser .. now need to sell either a ringmodulator or freqbox to a) pay for it b) make room for it
that said both were impulse buys due to stupid cheap prices, and both are doubling up as I already have both..
question is which to get rid of.also little bit concerned, as all that is left now is the delay or the cluster flux, both of which are like $1600 or more..
and I know, eventually, I will try and justify one