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- mg330
Bought this for iPad today:
http://www.arturia.com/evolution…It's amazing. How they sell apps like this for only $10 I have no idea.
I'm ordering an Arturia MiniLab this week to make iPad stuff easier and have more knobs to control, and probably just use my Micron for analog purposes.
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may pick up a fully functioning one of these this week
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er... this
Roland CR-8000 CompuRhythm
- nice, got the 5000. very 808. my 20 year plan is to install triggers for each sound to break free of the conga.prophetone
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why am I just today learning about the Roland System 100?
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- need a small van with good suspension to gig with this lot.microkorg
- think it was tainted by the 100m, which is a stinker. real nice filter on the kb.kingsteven
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ROLAND bringing back the 808!
- hell has frozen over!
http://www.musicrada…prophetone - and it sounds like cha-ching $$prophetone
- this is a non story without a linkalbums
- late posting me...albums
- i'm already bored by 808 sounds,ApeRobot
- hell has frozen over!
- mg330
I bought that MiniLab last night but sounds like it's actually a piece of crap. It's supposed to map easily to their ipad app knobs, but the knobs don't turn more than 1/10th of the way left or right on the app itself.
I'm also a little puzzled at the distortion in the output from the ipad to the computer. Tried a variety of ways but hard to get it to not distort.
I really like the sounds in the Minimoog; I might just think about getting their actual plugin to use in Logic and just use the app for casual ideas. Will probably take back the MiniLab and wait a bit to either get one of their larger controllers, or something else. Since I'm using the Micron for a controller, it only has three turnable knobs and I've not figured out how to program it for Midi yet.
- No plugin is going to sound like a Minimoog dude. Distortion may be your soundcard being overdriven.section_014
- True; I guess I'd say "I like the sound of what their emulation sounds like."mg33
- prophetone0
On the Roland TR-08... they are coining it the evolution of the product which means all digital or maybeee hybrid. If all digital what is the point I ask. There's an endless pool of options to get digital 808/909 sounds sequenced in hardware and software. My point is if this thing is an el cheapo digital knockoff with lots of cool extras we dont need to dazzle us then it's not the analog 808 I need/want. I hope they take a queue from the recent analog Korg stuff. We will see, I pray it's not another 303 fiasco. Amen.
- you mean the MC303? just as good as the TB lolletterhead
- haha exactly, i remember i had money ready and kinda didn't get it. have a mc303/505 just because they're coolprophetone
- but they aint no tb-303prophetone
- also have an MC-09 which is 'closer' to TB303 emulationprophetone
- I had an MC-303 back in the day. Piece of piss!microkorg
- ha! i know but got mine for $90 so what the hell. always wanted one for some reasonprophetone
- don't forget the GAIA-SH-01 (same line as this) that was based on but nothing like the 101kingsteven
- If anyboby knows how to repair the shitty LCD on the MC505 I'd love to dust mine off for a jamletterhead
- autoflavour0
yep, the whole Roland reissue stuff is a joke.
If they released a purely analog machine, i could forgive them for the god awful design job they did.. but if its not, which i have heard on good authority it isnt.. then its a complete waste of time.- i know... that pic reminds me of a BR-800
http://cms.rolandus.…prophetone - that's all well and fine for a BR-800 but not for an 808 re-issue imo. why not stick to the old colour scheme at least?prophetone
- i know... that pic reminds me of a BR-800
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I don't play guitar, but it's a MIDI controller, so I presume I'll have to buy it
- i do play guitar, and fuck this ugly piece of shit.kingsteven
- lol, No!ApeRobot
- sorry guys, it was $60 used. Had to do it. I could care less about its appearance, concerned with triggeringalbums
- i'd pull it apart and put the components inside a proper guitarsem
- considering i have no idea how to play, i think i started in the right $ rangealbums
- worst of both worlds, guitars have permanence ie. you look at a tele and you know what it sounds like... you see how it's slung and you know how it's going to be played.kingsteven
- slung and you know how it's going to be played. the same can be said for a TR-808, shit like this i cant abidekingsteven
- I have a MIDIfied strat that I pull out once a year - even it is nothing like playing guitar IMHOkingsteven
- the only time i've ever seen it done well is yr man from Gang Gang Dance, but he switches between vibes and shredding, i can dig.kingsteven
- not sure how this will go down but guitar style and sounds are not my intentalbums
- technically, I can use this to trigger lights, scenes, etc, not notes, which is my plan before letting it cover in dustalbums
- this isn't the first toy i bought you all groaned at, won't be the last ;)albums
- i play guitar and I would totally rock that shit. $60 it would be mine too. with a crazy distorted synth or something yalodef
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(Love how you guys have so much [negative] to say about the stuff I buy, but little to nothing when it comes to the music I make with it.)
- ;)albums
- gear/ instruments have finite associations so we can discuss them without listening to the subjective results.kingsteven
- i listened to one of your tracks once and it wasn't for me.kingsteven
- tbh. if i even said 'making beats' and wasn't being ironic, i would expect to be laughed out of the studio.kingsteven
- Don't take it personally, people like different things. You can't expect everyone to like the same as you.sem
- kingsteven0
On the relationships between instruments, sounds, music and their perception. I don't think anyone has ever explained it better than Pierre Schaeffer. One of the first people to study noise in the 40s and coined a myriad of theories relating to sound manipulation and it's perception that although modern technology has made commonplace, are often purely aesthetic (seemingly from the aggrandisement of musical imitation, and general homogenisation of popular music), used without any real relationship, structure or meaning.
You may need to use a bit imagination to apply his theories to modern music but I find them useful.
Schaeffer's definition of an instrument:
"Any device that allows us to obtain a varied collection of sound objects—or varied sound objects—while keeping at heart the permanence of a cause is a musical instrument, in the traditional sense of an experience common to all civilizations."
- This obviously applies to the world of acoustic instruments, but In a modern scenario I tend to apply it like so: A Telecaster sounds like it looks, and it doesn't sound like a BC Rich although TECHNICALLY the same instrument it would seem odd to see someone play country on a BC Rich and vice versa. Of course this is not meant to imply that you should't - Schaeffer also coined the term 'acousmatic' (which forms the basis of Music concrete) to refer to the eradication of this relationship though manipulation. (albums' this sort of explains why i relate so negatively to your guitar controller, if it was a guitar and you were a guitarist I could appreciate the juxtaposition of using it as a controller).
Of course by Schaeffer's definition, the studio isn't an instrument either (screw you Brian Eno) however it's easy to see how it would apply to a TR-808, Minimoog even MPCs, old samplers have 'a sound'. In fact any piece of desirable music equipment is usually down to it's 'permanence of a cause'/ vision. Even individual DAWs/ Sequencers all have a degree of character/ purpose, i'd credit them with some degree of musicality. I'd also consider laptops/ controllers in live electronic music a grey area for this reason (in live electronic music the mystery of wtf is intriguing, while an indie band with a laptop backing track is almost always a negative). It's a fine line.
On the relationship of instruments, sounds, music:
"Music has to do with sounds, so we need to find them somewhere and it is preferred to find musical ones. You have two sources for sounds: noises, which always tell you something — a door cracking, a dog barking, the thunder, the storm; and then you have instruments. An instrument tells you, 'la-la-la-la.' Music has to find a passage between noises and instruments. It has to escape. It has to find a compromise and an evasion at the same time; something that would not be dramatic because that has no interest to us, but something that would be more interesting than sounds like Do-Re-Mi-Fa..."
On musical revolution:
"People who try to create a musical revolution do not have a chance, but those who turn their back to music can sometimes find it."
More quotes:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pie…- lol at you caring how i use a digital toolalbums
- you sound like one of those guys who cares which operating system is running illustrator.albums
- yes, it's all about you albumkingsteven
- The amount of times I've used something wrong and got the right thing from it.sem
- not all things that create noise are instruments and it is that line between noise and sounds with permanence (ie. created with instruments) is where magic happenskingsteven
- by instruments) is where magic happens. but it's so easy to get it wrong.kingsteven
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- Miguex0
I wasn't feeling the alienware color scheme so I took a stab in photoshop
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malletkat MIDI xylophone
perfect for launching scenes and triggering effects... or reliving middle school band practice
- see, i would probably buy thisautoflavour
- malletkats are awesome, didn't realise they still made them. the drumkat was pretty much the must have drum controller of the 90skingsteven
- 90'skingsteven
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Yamaha WX5 MIDI Wind Controller
no better way to enjoy controlling stage lighting I presume
- you may want to google mick fleetwood's midi waistcoat drum solo. clearly he future of lighting technology.kingsteven
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- lodef0
I think this is what I want, use a real guitar like a midi controller...
- roland makes a nice midi guitar, but i don't want to pay for italbums
- I picked up an old gk2a and gi-20 for £100, suck it on a squire. you have to adapt your style to get anything out of it... like playing a ricki 12string if you know the feeling... laboriouskingsteven
- rickenbacker 12 string, real laborious.kingsteven
- damn, I'm going to have to check out this software tho!kingsteven
- autoflavour0
these arrived today from the plant..
- nice!kingsteven
- got any info man?kingsteven
- all in good time. but yep, Deepchild, Emerson Todd, Alphatown, Meem, Senator J1m and myself..autoflavour
- soundcloud,bandcamp?ApeRobot
- section_0140
I've used Jam Origin, and it's fine for just notes. However, any vibrato, or slides, or bends don't work for shit. I play bass (fretless), and would give my left nut for a synth controller that worked like it.
- < totally, guitars are incompatible with midi. unless you like glitchy pitchbend data and no dynamics.kingsteven
- your note describes exactly why i bought that YRGalbums
- jesus man, will you just fuck up about that piece of shit already? my point was that it's a guitar in name only.kingsteven
- section_0140
This comes close (might even be better), but it's almost 2 g's and made in super low numbers.