Shooting of the Day
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- nb0
News media coverage of this is disgusting.
CNN has the audio from the emergency call on their site. The New York Times has a headline informing the world how each child was shot multiple times. Reporters interviewing kids. Every network is full of gory details about this tragedy. It's covered from every angle. These gory details are not news. This is entertainment, and it is absolutely disgusting.
- yupmoldero
- yep, others misery is ratings gold. Its a fucked state of affairsthumb_screws
- Agree completely. Objective, respectable journalism is nearly dead. Sensationalism reigns.mg33
- oh the rating competition.pango
- why would any parent allow their kid to be interviewed? Just sad.monkeyshine
- ernexbcn0
The same stuff after every incident, and nothing changes.
- thumb_screws0
nb, Charlie Brooker brought that sentiment up after the German shootings a few years ago.
- bliznutty0
i haven't been following this thread so hopefully this isn't timelined.. anyway check this out.. this type of crazy psychotic behavior isn't just a modern day phenom.. the deadliest American school shooting happened in 1927 using bombs..
- English is not my mother tongue but wouldn't that make it a school bombing?********
- school massacre.. i think you understoodbliznutty
- I pointed it out because the fact that firearms were used is central to the debate.********
- what debate?bliznutty
- http://i.imgur.com/o…********
- English is not my mother tongue but wouldn't that make it a school bombing?
- yurimon0
This article is a good propaganda mind banger. from a country that respects human life.jeez
- whatthefunk0
A man stood in the parking lot of a shopping mall in Southern California and fired 50 shots into the air.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/1…- omg omg omg omg there's a shooting at fashion island********
- omg omg omg omg there's a shooting at fashion island
- CanHasQBN0
Olivia Engel
Noah Pozner
Emilie Parker
Ana Marquez-Greene
Lauren Rousseau
Victoria Soto and her dog, Roxie
Mary Sherlach
Dawn Hochsprung
Grace McDonnell
- monkeyshine0
How many mothers are there out there dealing with kids like this? So tragic.
- tougher love? are we spoiling the child by sparing the rod? no fear of consequences raises sociopaths?_niko
- ********0
“You’re a stupid bitch. I can wear whatever pants I want to. This is America. I have rights!” I know this child is mentally ill, but I think that sentence is telling us something. In the same way that people on here have spoken about their "right" to bear arms, it just seems, to someone from outside the US at least, that there is some strange obsession with individual rights, and what they bestow, in your country. Another thing that unsettles, or perhaps is just weird for a lot people who haven't grown up there, is the odd pledge to a flag and a country that children have to make every morning at school. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
I come from Ireland and we are not immune from this kind of brainwashing of infants. Our poison is religion. Thankfully we don't have guns, except very strictly for hunting, so we don't experience these massacres. We do, however, have a huge suicide problem. Maybe pushing ideologies on young minds is not such a good thing.- ^^ Sorry, I should have said "in reference to the HuffPost article above."********
- truedatyurimon
- Fuck off yurimon********
- ^^ Sorry, I should have said "in reference to the HuffPost article above."
- lowimpakt0
school children in pakistan holding a candlelight vigil
- ********0
- true http://en.wikipedia.…zaq
- UK is fucking police state a step ahead of the US. dont forget to mention it.yurimon
- I think there is more to the phenomenon then meets the eye. These are all making of mind control drugged tools.
yurimon - Though I agree partially about the state of healthcare in the US, yurimon, pills didn't kill these people, bullets did.orrinward2
- tell us more of this mind-control drug tool?teh
- _niko0
the most frustrating thing about this is the feeling of helplessness. This can easily happen again and there is little anyone can do about it.
If you look back at the Beslan tragedy in Russia, there was clearly someone responsible (Chechan Terrorists). Russia was able to go into Chechnya and wreck shit and people were able to mourn and feel that they did something about it, and prevent it from ever happening again.
Connecticut was an internal issue with no-one to clearly blame and no plan for preventing future tragedies of this sort.
- There is never a complete evaluation except for the programmed responses. So far its the fault of the mother. however, it would be interesting to see his medical history and affiliations.yurimon
- It would be good to review His medical records, his doctors, affiliations, medications taken.yurimon
- just ban all the bullet!pango
- ********0
Historically, I would tend to believe that right now is not the time for open discussion about the issues related to Newtown, but instead a time for deep introspection. For many, the news has been a tough thing to watch the last few days. I've done my best to avoid the sensationalism, and try to find key articles from respectable (IMO) sites to find out what's going on. When I first learned of the Newtown event, I was deep in the warmth of holiday celebrations, surrounded by friends that I consider my family. It was a great holiday party. We always find time to grow together with little outings, team building meetings, etc.
When the topic of Newtown came up, we tossed it about conversation for a few moments, but quickly switched subjects because it's, "not the right forum" for that kind of talk. I'm not quoting anyone specifically, but I think that's the general consensus on these types of events, and so we tend to opt for lighter conversation so as not to offend anyone's beliefs. Think about when a tough subject comes up between you and a stranger, or even a friend. If you're not directly invested in the issue, you will discuss topical thoughts, summarize with an agreement to disagree, and move on to something more socially acceptable like sports, or the weather. With modern technology where it is today, these events are becoming more of a spectacle for every home to see than isolated incidents for the grievers. It's really disheartening where our media has been for the last decade, and how it has reacted to Newtown. I am in fact sad about this event, deeply so, and not afraid to talk about it. As a caring human being, it's impossible to not wonder where we've gone so fundamentally wrong as a species. I tend to believe that we're afraid to acknowledge the issue, and we hope that someone else will mince the details for us. It's not in our nature any longer to actually DO something about these major split-opinion topics.
As it becomes more and more impossible to avoid the occurrence of these issues, the media is somewhat doing its job by getting the reality of the world in front of us. And it's changing how we live, because people are suddenly not afraid to debate their opinions online any longer. But what does that really get us? Nothing. Not a single iota of change. Because everything is working as intended. Social media is not really a social empowerment tool, it's a social dialogue tool, and that's it. So as it always tends to go, people debate topics, not core issues. I believe that we are all at fault for this, and I am having a hard time figuring out how it started and when.
I relate it to my day to day as follows. How often do we start our days in a good mood vs. being in a hurried rush into work, or off to complete some chore we've deigned necessary? More often than not, we begin our days frustrated about some trivial thing that seems so important in that moment, and needs to be attended to right away. Not often in those moments do we ever think, "Will I live through this day?" That question should be importantly top-of-mind, and I think we are getting there. People are clearly scared, whether they are a gun owner or not. Unless you're scared, you're not going to do anything about anything except talk about it. As the saying goes, talk is cheap. I don't know what exactly needs to be done to prevent people from becoming so lost in themselves that they decide to walk into public spaces and take the lives of people they have never before met. What I am certain of is this... Every single one of you on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Pinterest, etc. saying that gun control is not needed, you are NOT correct. And so, in the pattern of millions of others, here are my thoughts on this issue that the media has grotesquely brought to our attention.
This IS the time to talk about gun control. The social conversations, the political debates, they all need to continue until we find solutions to the problem we have of Americans possessing guns, particularly those who should not have them. This debate should not and cannot end when the next major event flashes across the popular Breaking News outlets. Because, it's not JUST gun control that is needed. We promote television shows that each week show murder, rape, robbery, deceit, and glorification of the underbelly of human traits. We promote unrealistically violent movies, music that uplifts one-sided conditions of an increasingly sexist society, racist dialogue in our favorite series shows, and books about housewives-turned-whores. In Best Buy, the video games are no longer safely packaged behind MPAA ratings, they are instead on demo stations for kids to play while their parents mindlessly browse for that elusive $5 DVD deal of the week. To say the above will typically get you relegated to the "Christian" or "right-wing" labels. I'm not a devout Christian. I don't even know where I stand with the concept of God, but I do know that the very fiber of what a human is supposed to be is fading, more rapidly in this generation and the last than ever before. We need to examine how we, as a society, treat one another, and how we are functioning in this modern age of the human shelf-life, and I have an idea as to one potential core issue.
It's not just movies, music and books. It's our concept of work, and our collective descent into the greed model of our government that is causing us to lose our humanity. Think about how we judge our friends and co-workers when they want to take time off of work (something I am a MAJOR proponent of). Not every company is like this, but I can promise you that most major corporations are. We encourage (and reward, if you can call it that) our workers to work harder, and to work longer. We care NOTHING for how this affects their families, especially the children that are a part of those families. In Europe, the minimum standards for time off are between 4 and 6 weeks of full vacation. Can you imagine what an executive at a major American corporation would say to his employees if they asked for 4-6 weeks vacation? It would NEVER happen without serious, serious tenure. I believe that is one of the major core issues at hand today. Our families need us, but our jobs aren't always allowing us to be there for them. Our businesses need us too, but, our families must always be the most important thing in our lives, and that doesn't seem to be where we're at anymore as a people.
Before we determine if gun laws are needed, before we determine if violent TV needs to be shown later at night, before we determine if we actually want to police PG-13 and R-rated movies in our theaters, we need to care a little more about the people we work with and the people that work for us. We need to care about their lives outside of our businesses. We need to not only allow for people to take time off to spend with their families, we need to encourage and support it. It's something I've always believed in, and I will continue to push this belief forward at our company.
To begin to repair ourselves, we need to come together, have more direct conversation about these events, and make the necessary changes to help our society rebuild. A smart person this weekend said to me, "I think the key to happiness and wholeness as a people is understanding the concept of caring. To be cared for, and to care for others, it brings you joy that you simply can't get from anything else in life."
- tl;dr. someone summarize?d0mino
- great points, it could be the by-product of a capitalist society, eat or be eaten, survival of the fittest, and cast aside everyone else as lazy and weak._niko
- ...else as lazy and weak._niko
- love is a sign of weakness, hate equals strength. We are encouraged to hate._niko
- guns are bad, m'kay?Eighty
- _niko0
Not saying this is the underlying cause, but Pilots spend hundreds of hours in flight simulators before they ever step on a real plane, so virtual training is a real and useful thing.
Kids that spend thousands of hours playing first person shooters, will not automatically become real life killers, but if they have underlying issues and something sets them off, they won't hesitate to do what they know best.
- BusterBoy0
In Australia, we went through a series of mass killings...we tend to copy a lot of what happens in the US here. It took a truly horrific event in 1996 where 35 people were slaughtered, including a woman and her two little kids...my wife worked with the woman and seeing her dead body next to her 2 young kids on the news was just too close to home.
Subsequently, our conservative Prime Minister introduced the 'national firearms agreement' where 650,000 weapons were bought by the government and then destroyed. Much tighter regulations were introduced and since that time, where there were 13 mass shootings her in the years just prior, there hasn't been a single mass shooting since. The murder rate with firearms has also declined by 40%.
It can be done.
- I love this idea.formed
- pro-gun advocates counter that your crime has gone up since then...rape, murder, etc. True?monkeyshine
- Pro-gun advocates are full of horse shit.********
- How so? The numbers are there.404NotFound
- youngdesigner0
Libertarian Party: Halt the Massacre of Innocent Children by Ending Prohibition on Self-Defense in Schools
“We've created a 'gun-free zone,' a killing zone, for the sickest criminals on the face of the Earth," said R. Lee Wrights, vice-chair of the Libertarian Party. "We've given them an open killing field, and we've made the children of this country the victims."
Wrights pointed out that merely the knowledge that armed people will be present acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters.
"They're not going to walk into a police station, and why not? Because that's where the guns are," he said.The Federal Gun Free Schools Zone Act prohibits carrying firearms on school grounds in most cases, effectively criminalizing the right to self-defense in places filled with the most vulnerable citizens. Without that federal prohibition, adults working at the school would have been free to defend themselves, very possibly saving the lives of many of the young children and adults who were slain in this horrific tragedy.
"We must stop blinding ourselves to the obvious: Most of these mass killings are happening at schools where self-defense is prohibited," said Carla Howell, executive director of the Libertarian Party. "Gun prohibition sets the stage for the slaughter of innocent children. We must repeal these anti-self-defense laws now to minimize the likelihood they will occur in the future and to the limit the damage done when they do."
- fucking lolernexbcn
- Wow, I thought they were crazy before hand! Fuck. Talk about an absurd spin.formed
- or better yet, arm the kids!_niko
- Fucking hell. These shooters aren't deterred by anything. They're not afraid to die. They always kill themselves afterward.CanHasQBN
- afterward.CanHasQBN
- War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.********
- BusterBoy0
^^ that is so stupid. I even heard some guy on Meet the Press talking about arming the teachers and armed guards at every school. Can these people not see how idiotic that is?
- kingkong0
so sad.
so sad.
Being a parent these days I get affected by stuff more than I used to.
Then again you know, guns are well... bad.
They are designed to kill.
Not Collect.
You know the names of killers.
Not Victims.
We revel in violence.
Always on news.
Personal rights outweigh collective rights.
Not many stories make you feel numb.
End of days stuff.
Awful.
