Apple
- Started 12 years ago
- Last post 11 days ago
- 3,731 Responses
- mekk1
blob:http%3A//imgur.com/4317c771...
- mekk1
- utopian3
Apple Watch sales are down 55%
The Apple Watch is soooo last year.
A new report from market intelligence firm IDC shows Apple Watch sales have dropped 55% since the product was launched in early 2015.
The watch debuted to a backlog of orders and 3.6 million units were shipped in its first three months on the market. But sales plummeted to just 1.6 million in the latest quarter, according to IDC. That's in spite of a price discount.
- well they're doing quite well in mongolia!
- MonoGeorgesII - why do so many salivate at the idea of Apple failing?inteliboy
- it's mostly all the fanboys and "loyal" customers, outside of here I think they are a superb company :-)formed
- Sales didn't plummet as much as competition. Sold more than all competition combined. Raked in enough cash to make Samsung nut its pantsmonospaced
- But yes. Let's focus on the guy who won and ignore the guys who didn't even finish the race.monospaced
- The watch was a "mee too!" product, everybody rushed these things, tech isn't there yet for a proper smart watchernexbcn
- Exactly. Everyone who wanted one got one. Anyway. The chart here is both insignificant and completely unrelated and irrelevant to the watch sales pointmonospaced
- the watch was one of Apple's biggest PR disasters - forget the figures - it wasn't the next big thing they said it would be. And most of us knew it so how didfadein11
- they not? That is the issue, not how many sheeple bought one just because they could.fadein11
- The fascinating thing about Apple, beyond the koolaid drinkers, is that they make SO much money and it's almost entirely the iphone.formed
- That's why it's interesting to discuss their stock. They aren't Proctor&Gamble, or even Microsoft/Oracle/Goo... They have almost no diversification.formed
- One bad report on the iphone and the stock will dive, another great report and it'll shoot up. I own it, but long term I am more comfortable with the othersformed
- The watch, some believed, had the potential to add a tad bit of diversification (not all iphone, which is a dying market). But that's clearly not the case.formed
- they need a watch only that deals with time and date and faces only.********
- Yep. Wise words. Yet it wasn't a 1 trick pony 10 years ago... macbooks and imacs only for me, fuck their consumer BSfadein11
- i don want health info or fitness info or msg on my wrist. so why should i buy it. its a nice watch in appearance.********
- start with appearance of the watch
time and date only
many faces for time and date
cool ones******** - saweet, time to buy more apple!jaylarson
- *stockjaylarson
- It looks fat and bulky like 1st gen iPhone or iPod, I know a few people held off for a 2nd gen version. Maybe they should persevere.Ranger
- I am looking forward to the next ones (for all smart watches). I wouldn't buy it w/o the fitness part, though, then it's just a pretty Casio.formed
- Personally, I prefer 'real' watches with style (sorry, unless you are 20, no smart watch will ever have style due to the disposability)formed
- but for fitness, gps, etc., I'd get one. Microsoft's band is much more appealing, if still a generation or two off. I want small, minimal,formed
- nothing that competes with a 'real' watchformed
- For something that apparently is a disaster, people sure seem to talk about it a lot, and it leads the market segment for the most part.inteliboy
- It's shit and rarely see anyone with onefadein11
- well they're doing quite well in mongolia!
- GeorgesII0
ahahhahahahha
- not sure this will work..
but at the same time, i said the same thing when they took away the DVD drives.. Apple just steamroll the industry sometimesautoflavour - Oh look. A photo of headphones with a lightning charger mixed in. Wow.monospaced
- steamrolling the industry or whatever. i know i won't be the first adopter since i just bought a head phone using 3.5mpango
- those headphones are the shittest headphones I have ever used on any device ever in my life... seriously terrible designfadein11
- and I mean the normal ones not whatever is going on here.fadein11
- Agreed, these buds simply don't sit in my ears, they're awful. Others say they work great, I don't get it.Ranger
- they work great!pango
- Well at least mono is impressed********
- I wonder if it's the user stats that lead them to make this decision. for instance. not many people plugged charging and head phone at the same time?pango
- Cuz i plug charging and headphone at the same time... this would be annoying...pango
- can't listen to phone while charging it, need special headphones for my phone vs everything else... if this is true, I'm glad I'm on android.zarkonite
- They haven't made this decision it's just a charger mixed in haha********
- I would imagine it's cheaper to produce isn't it? They're always removing details from laptops. Battery indicator etcRanger
- Plus they'll probably be more of a push towards wireless headphonesRanger
- Mayb that's one of the deal with beats streaming service. To make more people buy their headphone.pango
- So many people are using those awful earbuds, so many people who will never hear the bass from their musicBennn
- Mehh don't care. i have good head phone at home. ear buds's for when i'm out of my house.pango
- those shitty headphones hurt my ears after a while.sea_sea
- i must have weird apple-fanboy-shaped ears as all in-ear buds I try fall out - except for the Apple ones.inteliboy
- innovation never sleepsutopian
- .... i like how they fit in my ears...pango
- The new Moto Z has already done away with the headphone jack, they include a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter in the box.face_melter
- lol seriously? So are there USB c headphones?monospaced
- Yeah. There are. Supposedly really great sound (bandwidth)monospaced
- these will only work if they do wireless charging.dorf
- @dorf, where did you read that?monospaced
- that means you wont be able to charge and listen music at the same timeBennn
- If Apple allow wireless charging it will be locked down somehow - they don't even let other companies use the iPhone's NFC chip.face_melter
- Most likely they're gonna sell adopter for charging and headphone jack.pango
- @mono, I was speculating.dorf
- not sure this will work..
- section_0140
Are they ever going to release a new Macbook pro? The one's they're offering are so out of date and overpriced (I know they've always been overpriced). I wish I didn't like OSX so much, or I would just run Linux full time. I've been waiting for new one's to launch since 2015.
I barely do design anymore (ie. use Adobe products), so I could probably run some sort of hybrid Linux / Windows setup for dev work. OSX is so nice though. Wish they would just open source it, or sell it without the hardware.
- They do sell it without the hardware. You just have to work a little to get it going.monospaced
- Macrumors says MacBook Pro updates unlikely. Last update was 1500+ days ago.noneck
- What? Last update was 5 years ago? That can't be right.nb
- Er... 4+ years ago?nb
- My 2015 MacBook would disagree with that. Derp. It says don't buy because they just updated it.monospaced
- I mean, because it's about to update.monospaced
- I'm stoned.monospaced
- The question was about MacBook Pro, not MacBook.noneck
- The MacBook pro was updated may 2015. I have one here. It's been updated. Where have you been?monospaced
- @Mono, I have a hackintosh. But, I'm leary about submitting to the App Store with it. Don't wanna lose my dev license.section_014
- noneck0
Has Apple abandoned its desktops? Is it time to get a Dell?
- < THIS is fucked. Everyone rants about the iPhone, but it's fine, if not great, iOS works well. But this mac shit is just embarrassing.inteliboy
- There's too much money in the gadgets.noneck
- iMac is right there.monospaced
- MacPro & iMac = DesktopsHAYZ1LLLA
- Mac Mini toomonospaced
- noneck0
Serious question though, what do you work on? What do we do when Apple gives up on the Mac computer?
- linux********
- iPad Pronb
- true********
- What Mac computer did apple give up on? iMac is the desktop machine. Has been for a decade.monospaced
- they gave up on the mac pro --- no updates!********
- Apple only gives the iMac casual lip service. Laptop-grade components with a big screen. Vastly over-priced and under-powered.face_melter
- and that sucks********
- and you never get the performance of the top models because cooling is way underpowered and throttles the CPU after 5 minutesmekk
- Amiga OS********
- linux
- mekk0
^ I have a 2011 MBP. It's dying slowly (mic broken, keyboard broken, slow, looks like ass).
Want a new one but they have only dated hardware with 15" to offer. And they removed the nvidia GPU, put in a cheaper/slower amd GPU and raised the price. WTF Apple.
- sofakingback0
Well I read something about an update for the 15 macbook pro. it has a digital keypad area.
Which sounds kinda horrible if you ask me. Sounds like the new heads of apple are trying to be steve jobs by being innovative, by adding something new to the laptop market.
I just don't think they understand what it means to be innovative with the purpose to make the product better. instead they will try to be different just to be different. I mean who the fuck wants a digital keyboard??? wtf.
- to be honest the clicking simulation thingy on the small macbook's touch area works very goodmekk
- please god no********
- you all go apeshit when they announce their revolutionary keyboard where they replace enter with escapemekk
- I don't believe Ive ever gone ape shit over anything apple has done. Im guessing because I had a opinion you assumed I'm someone you know?sofakingback
- you know what made me go apeshit? Microsoft Office, mother of god I still get pissed thinking about it.sofakingback
- 'you' as us designer pack :)mekk
- there are rumors of a touchpad-style contextual menu above the keyboard, yes, but not a replacement for physical typing keysmonospaced
- replacing enter with escape? what? that never happenedmonospaced
- eh? customisable function keys sound really useful. why hate? https://9to5mac.file…inteliboy
- What inteliboy said.lvl_13
- Ok it's interesting********
- monospaced-4
Huge pre-market surge after the earnings report yesterday. Nearly 7% overnight.
- why downvotes? it's just news, jeezmonospaced
- Honestly, what did you expect -
a badge?detritus - I expected more indifference, considering it's not even related to opinions or hypemonospaced
- upvotingernexbcn
- How dare you share facts!!!! burn this motherfucker at the stake!!!! lolsofakingback
- Funny how a post about a measly <1% drop is well received, but when Apple has a 9% raise it's downvoted. Buncha haterz here. :)monospaced
- valentim0
- oooh, fan art based on rumors!monospaced
- ofcourse!valentim
- :\ i'm not sure about this...pango
- pango, that's because it's fan art based on nothing but a rumormonospaced
- :/ well even if it's official I'm still not gonna be sure about it... Apple or not... It just ... Doesn't feel right...pango
- Everyone can see that mono, captain obvious meets captain defensive meets captain weird********
- captain cunt fails to grasp my sarcasmmonospaced
- I just think it's funny how fans and critics get all uppity over rumor-based renders n' shit like this, as if they were based on anything but thatmonospaced
- •__•
My Disappointment wasn't for Apple or the fan. My disappointment was towards the design idea. That idea is shit.pango - I hope who ever came up with that idea doesn't take it personal.pango
- Martin Hajekmonospaced
- mekk0
Maybe non Apple but with all those ultra slim laptop displays, why can't we have a standalone display as thin as the MacBooks Display with an external box for all the connections?
- can't you use the new iMacs as an external display?********
- my point is to have a nice external display, not using another macbook as onemekk
- or a whole computermekk
- why does everything have to be so thin though - who gives a shit - its a screen.fadein11
- thin is cool and thin is sexy, I'll admit iMacs catch my eye (looking forward to Microsoft's aio)formed
- I like a screen with some curves, them skinny bitches don't do it for me.zarkonite
- i agree with mekk. pc monitors look pretty ho hum...inteliboy
- can't you use the new iMacs as an external display?
- Bennn5
I'm officially Apple-less.
The last Apple product I was using is now out of my life.
I switched from Mac to Windows a few years ago.
I switched from iPhone to Android last year.Well I just dumped iTunes for Music Bee this week.
I was using iSync and iTunes to put music on my new xperia phone and I was struggling with lots of fuckups. Then i discovered that i can sync my phone directly in Music Bee! Like an iPhone in iTunes! And it works perfectly!
Music Bee is an open source software. Way much better than iTunes! Fully customisable, you can changed everything in it as you wish. You can also add lyrics, upcoming shows, access wikipedia of an artist, see the upcoming albums...
Bye Apple.
- Did you get the Z5 Compact?dmay
- yes :)Bennn
- So ugly, though.nb
- I think it looks great, are you happy with it, Benn?dmay
- good for you.pango
- http://s2.quickmeme.…ok_not_ok
- You want your apple-less apps to act like apples apps, just not be apple?dopepope
- nb, whats ugly? the xperia or Music Bee?Bennn
- dopepope, no. i dont want this.Bennn
- good on you bensureshot
- oh noooo! http://scrapetv.com/…chukkaphob
- So many jumped up little Apple fanboys haha********
- Music Bee looks ugly.nb
- Android and iOS are both great, but Android is definitely a little better.nb
- I replaced iTunes with Spotify and YouTube/soundcloudernexbcn
- Tree apps to replace one?nb
- Three apps to replace one?nb
- welcome to the real worldfeel
- I still use iTunes, but only for the store - sometimes albums/tracks don't show up on 7digital, which along with Bandcamp are my first options.face_melter
- I play my library through foobar. Streaming is for suckers.face_melter
- paging monospaced....1...2...utopian
- what?monospaced
- nb, there's dozens of 'skins' for Music Bee, you can change everything, the fonts, the colors, the panels, etc. its infinite. The base model looks ugly, yes.Bennn
- Skins? This Music Bee thing sounds like Winamp. Or Sonic.Continuity
- Neat. Why don't they just make the good skin the default, then?nb
- fuck apple and the bed of money it shit itself insrhadden
- "skin" isnt the right word. Just try it i dont know how to explain it. Just know you can customize everything. Seriously much better than iTunes.Bennn
- Why is this something to be proud of?
Why are people congratulating this?qoob - i was being sarcastic....pango
- the never ending blood thirst of apple's doom. circe 1984inteliboy
- i've never said i was proudBennn
- Ben the never proud.pango
- ********0
What the heck has Apple r&d been producing since the iphone cash cow began?
I want more innovation from Apple! Nyahhh!
- what about a car by 2020?ernexbcn
- You're deluding yourself if you think Apple's going to come up with a better self-driving car, in secret, without road testing. They are already far behind...zarkonite
- you're deluding yourself if you think apple isn't doing intense R&D constantly ... what do you think the space campus is for?monospaced
- @zarkonite let's wait and seeernexbcn
- @zark, do you really think they aren't road testing? if you realize this you have to be sure they realized it long before you didmonospaced
- And no one's seen anything? there are plenty of big players in that space, they're going to just change how a car is built. Read up, their car efforts are inzarkonite
- shambles. Now they're talking about building a software only solution... I think they've painted themselves in a corner.zarkonite
- Apple's TOTAL R&D spending is smaller than Ford's!zarkonite
- ^missing a "... NOT going to change how cars are built" in my first paragraph.zarkonite
- @zark, people have seen things, it's been reported for over a year, and that's why it's on the news stillmonospaced
- ernexbcn1
Dan Dodge, former CEO, founder of QNX, joined Apple this year
- ernexbcn2
R&D:
"Over the past nine months, the company spent $7.475 billion on R&D — that compares to $5.847 billion over the same time period the previous year. And it’s part of a continued trend in the face of lowered revenues that points to a company looking to break out of a stagnation in innovation that has largely seen iteration on existing product categories over the last several years. Apple is spending more of its total revenue on research and development than it has in some years, pointing to a company that’s looking to shake things up once again."
- intriguing.inteliboy
- Spending more money because they don't have the ideas-man Jobs around anymore?nb
- Or because they just aren't coming up with anything good, so they're throwing money at the problem? I'm just speculating. Obviously nobody here knows.nb
- A lot of it is that they're simply scaling. A bigger company is going to spend more on everything, including R&D, as they expand into more areas.monospaced
- mekk0
What a stupid idea:
- It's not apples idea.monospaced
- still stupidmekk
- This kind of shite gives people on Mac forums the gush.face_melter
- Power button located on an external accessory. Cool concept.nb
- this is the fear of change gone mad.inteliboy
- what happens when nerds get too hungry for "innovation"aliastime
- I wonder how many screens this will break.err
- none because it's not real and never will bemonospaced
