WarOnXMas
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- mathinc0
So tired of this whole 'war on Christmas' bullshit. Does it really surprise you that towns are restricting the public display of religious icons of Christmas? Populations are more culturally diverse than ever which is actually an amazing thing for all of us. But instead of embracing this difference and evolution of our society we've got the 'DON'T FUCKING TOUCH MY FUCKING MANGER!!' crowd. Sorry but Christmas isn't exclusively a religious holiday any more than Thanksgiving is a holiday for carnivores.
Humorous how you talk about atheists being 'angry' when it's people like you talking about war on this and on that. I did a search and I don't happen to see any threads from atheists who are pissed off about the presence of religious propaganda.. only you who's angry about the lack thereof. How about you fill your house with crosses, wild animals and people dressed up like wise men and let them sacrifice the baby, or whatever the fuck is supposed to happen at the nativity scene.
Just be happy, spend time with your friends and loved ones and build a god damned fucking manger in your own backyard.
- prophetone0
amen and pass the goddamn potatoes please...
- whhipp0
ok the manger has nothing to do about sacrificing a baby... why dont you read a bit before mouthing off, mathinc.
And yes maybe War is too aggressive of a term for you PC types, but its a very descriptive word that basically tells it like it is. Sorry monospaced, but this is part of US Culture and should be celebrated, but yet again people like you have to cry their way to removing the small bit of culture left of this young country of ours.
- monospaced0
Seriously, wwhipp, it's called sarcasm. His point was that you should follow your believes, WHATEVER they are, and not impose them on the rest of us. Nobody thinks it's about sacrifice, dude.
- monospaced0
Also, this country's true culture is religious freedom without fear of persecution, NOT Christianity. YOU might think Christianity is US culture, but it's not, and therefore shouldn't be a required celebration, especially for the millions who think the whole thing is ridiculous. You're the one claiming it's a "war" and expressing your hate, but only because you think the majority rules. It doesn't.
- haha listen to your words... fear from religious persecution, but not the nonreligious persecution... hmmmwhhipp
- yupteh
- it's ANY persecution, and there's NONE going on you duncemonospaced
- so you answered my point. No one is being persecuted, so let the mangers be.whhipp
- YOU claimed there's persecution, from the non-religious. I'm saying there's none. Therefore, NO WAR. No fuck off.monospaced
- Now get your goddamn manger out of my fucking public view. It's a bunch of mythical junk.monospaced
- Why mono, why you so offended? Why?whhipp
- tax $ that's whyprophetone
- I'm offended that you ASSUME Christianity is our culture. It's naive and rude, and then you claim it's a war.monospaced
- ok so... christmas and mangers have no cultural footing in the US culture? Really? Serious?whhipp
- They have footing in our culture, but this country's long-standing principle is to keep it separate from the state.monospaced
- of course, for those who seek it outprophetone
- utopian0
I am going to turn this into a jewish thread!
- utopian0
- I love youmonospaced
- after what happened in the Israel Bombing shit thread, i am afraid to make any comments on this topicautoflavour
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dradleutopian - thank you for having some dude cut up my little infant penis for no good reason mom and dadmoldero
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- monospaced0
- It's Ramadan symbolism, btwmonospaced
- I see nothing wrong with a tribute to the Cheshire Cat... You do?
http://www.fallingor…whhipp - fine, don't take it seriouslymonospaced
- come on mono... that was funny as shit. Give me a smile at least.whhipp
- prophetone0
i'm sorry has this become a question of modern religion vs. preserving a young country's dying culture? (*gets kleenex)
because either way do what you like, just keep that religious stuff out of publicly-accessible, tax-funded venues.
you can erect a 20 ft cross on your lawn, knock yourself out. that's the freedom you have.
- antagonlsta0
here's an idea.
How about you motherfuckers vote for some representation.- this thread seems like group masturbation..antagonlsta
- .. weirdosantagonlsta
- now you're just antagonizing the situation.whhipp
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- Thanks Albums... why don't my Facebook links work any more?!?!bobkat
- < And this...bobkat
- gay atheists .. LOLautoflavour
- ukit20
How Did America's Founding Fathers Feel About Christmas?
The fact is, Christmas was nothing special to our nation's Founding Fathers. The U.S. government didn't even recognize Christmas as a holiday until 1870. Until then, Congress routinely met and conducted business on Christmas day. It was, in fact, just another workday.
Truth be told, Christmas was a totally different affair during the first century of America's history. It was far removed from today's holiday in which families gather and open presents around the Christmas tree.
So how did one celebrate Christmas back in those days? Well, typically, you might start off the day getting blindingly drunk. Then, you'd take to the streets and approach passer-by and demand money from them. If they refused, you'd beat them up. You might conclude the day by smashing some store windows or breaking into people's homes and stealing their food. Peruse a newspaper from the 1820s and you can routinely read of such chaotic yuletide lawlessness.
In the early part of the 19th century, Christmas was, as one historian once noted, "like a nightmarish cross between Halloween and a particularly violent, rowdy Mardi Gras." In fact, a massive Christmas riot in 1828 led to the formation of New York City's first police force.
Indeed, newspapers of the era are filled with disturbing accounts of what Christmas was really like in those days: widespread rioting, sexual assault, vandalism, drunkenness, street violence and general lawlessness. Most of these "traditions" were carried over from Europe, where, dating back to the Middle Ages, Christmas had been regarded by the wealthy classes as a safety valve for releasing the peasants' pent-up frustrations.
- So Christmas in the 1800s was pretty much like a Friday night out after work?!?!bobkat
- autoflavour0
- i dont care if thats circumcised or not..autoflavour
- Seems like your whipping it around.yurimon
- Haha love this.mathinc
- why is the paper crumpled?ohhhhhsnap
- that message was in a bottle, and it didn't even need onemonospaced
- yurimon, what the fuck are you even talking about? whipping what around? are you retarded or just stupidautoflavour
- i have a use for my penis.. i have no use for religionautoflavour
- GeorgesII0
Only in america...
- If this were anywhere else there could be bombs falling. At least it's America.monospaced
- tru datmoldero