The Healthy Thread
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- drgs2
The best sitting position is the next one
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- Yes. The only bad posture is prolonged posture.palimpsest
- I prefer sitting like this, personally.Continuity
- _niko, sors de ce corps.palimpsest
- Continuity2
Eating *too* 'clean', as it turns out, can be detrimental to your overall fat loss/body recomposition goals, and ultimately unsustainable.
(Trigger warning for you anti-carbers and Keto 'n' Crossfit Culties: contains actual real science, empirical data, and an abundance of common sense)
- Shots fired.palimpsest
- Just for what he says about dieting it's worth the watch.palimpsest
- Yurp. With only a couple of exceptions with regards to biomechanics on a couple of movements, Jeff Nippard is a solid science communicator.Continuity
- Continuity0
So, the whole gelatine-in-burgers thing got me thinking:
Any of you supplementing with collagen? Having turned 50 thirteen days ago, and realising that my tendons and joints aren't what they used to be, I'm thinking collagen might be a good tactic — especially since I'm a frequent lifter.
Any anecdotes to share? Also, what's the recommended dose? Google search results are all over the shop.
- "Realising"? More like finally stopping being in denial, and admitting it.Continuity
- Don't know about collagen but my mother is looking into Platelet-Rich Plasma (PRP) Injections. https://www.hss.edu/…palimpsest
- I've been looking into them to...
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- jagara2
So, I'm a bit of a chubby chub-chub.
Thinking of doing simple intermittend fasting (eating twice a day, skipping breakfast), so 16 hours no food, and 8 hours with.
First meal at 12:00, last meal at 8.
It seems perfectly doable for me. At least skipping breakfast.
Tried it? Had good results?
- It depends. You just need to eat less calories than you spend. If this gets you there, great.dmay
- ^ This. Being in a calorie deficit will make you lose weight.
Around 500 kcal/day will do you, though I would recommend strength training to go with it.Continuity - ^ This.
Intermittent fasting is not a magic pill. Any diet might have side effects that could help towards your goal but the solution is never the diet itself.palimpsest - Technically, intermittent fasting isn't a diet, it's an eating schedule. But yeah, you can't fast and eat junk food and expect weight loss.jagara
- '[...] you can't fast and eat junk food and expect weight loss.'
Sure, you can. Provided you're still in a calorie deficit.Continuity - Any change in your eating habit is a diet regardless of the desired outcome.palimpsest
- I'm overweight and I know it's not because I'm eating 3 meals.
Fat storage is created by "excess" calorie intake. As simple as that.palimpsest - I think what dmay, Continuity and myself are really getting to is the reason why you have fat storage and the ways to go around reducing that.palimpsest
- Either intake less calories in whatever way you're taking them or use them.
But also do crunches, because that targets abdominal fat.palimpsest - You'll know it's working because you'll feel the calories burning. XDpalimpsest
- ^ This.Continuity
- It has worked for me but only because the fasting rule helped be curb my total calorie intakenb
- I understand the excitement of anyone taking on a diet. Already it makes you think about what you're already eating. Don't miss the forest for the trees.palimpsest
- Ive been doing intermittent fasting for about a year. Initially drop weight to make it easier on my knees for running. Lost about 7kg over 3 months....thumb_screws
- ...but then it plateaued. I still do the fasting, I needed to get into some healthier routines and found it stops me from snacking when I don’t need too.thumb_screws
- i used an app to track my calories several years ago (entering every meal for a couple months) and learned to have a running tally in my head throughout the daykingsteven
- @kingsteven
From experience that is a solid option. I did it for a week, I weighed everything. It gives you a clearer understanding of what you're consuming.palimpsest - @thumb_screws
Another option is strength training which many runners avoid. I think the overall message here is to have an objective view of what really works.palimpsest - it has kept me right. i have a few caveats: fruit can be deceptive on a calorie diet - if you eat a lot of junk you will tend to substitute with too much fruitkingsteven
- = no weight loss. about 50% of the calories in nuts pass straight through you, so nuts tend to look bad on a calorie diet but actually often a better optionkingsteven
- as they fill you up. similarly to nuts you will piss away a lot of the calories in liquids. but. overall you need to choose food with high satiety.kingsteven
- generally food which is sweet + fat won't contribute to the sense of fullness. so drinking a sweet drink with a meal is counter-productive.kingsteven
- Sounds like essential oils but whatever works for you.palimpsest
- i just started this. but with different expectations. i know the initial weight loss will plateau. I went to IF for the autophagy. And I will be movingMrAbominable
- to keto also. Keto helps with the hunger but the few weeks getting there will suck. also, I'm doing Breaky and Lunch, no dinner. Tend to overeat at dinner.MrAbominable
- #essentialoilspalimpsest
- 'about 50% of the calories in nuts pass straight through you, so nuts tend to look bad on a calorie diet but actually often a better option'Continuity
- You're fooling yourself.Continuity
- Nuts have an astonishing amount of fat and fat — all fats, regardless of source or nature — has 9 kcal per grams, versus 4 kcal per gram in protein and carbs.Continuity
- i'm talking about the caveats of only counting calories. calorie controlled diets tend to cut out nuts but you don't process all the calories and they have manykingsteven
- other nutritional benefits if you're constructing a low calorie diet.kingsteven
- We're not saying nuts are bad. Oreos aren't bad either. We're talking strictly about weight loss. Calories in, calories out.palimpsest
- "nuts pass straight through you" is a fucking joke. They have some fast-pass road badge or something?palimpsest
- 'you don't process all the calories'
Are you having a laugh? If this were true, no-one would be fat.Continuity - 5% of ingested calories are lost in stools and urine. you loose up to 50% of calories in nuts as they are only partially digested.kingsteven
- Source, please.Continuity
- "If you drink your own urine there's no waste"palimpsest
- Weight loss is all about calories. Get to around 1500-1600/day and pounds will fly off.
I eat lunch at 10-ish, dinner at 7, and a few snacks.formed - That doesn't make you lose weight, though. Count those calories, short of running marathons it's the only way (and it's super simple/easy).formed
- ^palm is right. Nuts can be very healthy, but you only need a few almonds a day. They will totally make you gain weight, FAST, if you don't pay attention.formed
- https://www.forbes.c…kingsteven
- i can't find the exact study, but it would seem that some products now use lower counts.kingsteven
- #essentialoilspalimpsest
- Yeah, I'm not buying this.Continuity
- I highly recommend not skipping breakfast unless you are not hungry. Your body will crave double time. Ensure you get your proteins and base. You got this.dibec
- i couldn't find the study that was 50% but there's plenty out there. the one in the forbes article is 32% less for almonds vs FDA measurementkingsteven
- O! watch that ketosis, some people really jack themselves during fasting diets.dibec
- i 100% agree that it's all about cutting calories just think it's useful to know how you process food/drink affects how your body processes itkingsteven
- Nuts pass straight through you.palimpsest
- This is behind the whole #gorp movement.palimpsest
- https://www.ncbi.nlm… average 32% discrepancy between FDA calorie count and empirically measured count in almondskingsteven
- i only mention it as a caveatkingsteven
- hundreds of studies out there if you care to look.kingsteven
- Do your own research.palimpsest
- hah, the forbes article is about why the FDA allow manufacturers of nut products to reduce their calorie counts based on this method, but surekingsteven
- OK, chief.palimpsest
- Ignore all the addons, just start doing the fasting now and think about more when you've adjusted to the first step.kalkal
- Pay attention to PDCAAS, which is how much of your protein you absorb. Eat less, in general. Liquid diet now and then. Caffeine. These things work.maikel
- The intermittent fasting trick is you eat less. Does not matter if you do it in the eve, morning or intermittently. Beware of overeating cos you feel hungry.maikel
- Challenge accepted.palimpsest
- physical exercise, water, sleep, cut the crap food.ApeRobot
- Caloric restraint, find a healthy lean protein + veg routine that sates your appetite. Pick a new outdoor hobby and start it slow.garbage
- You don't want to hate your path to change, and it's dangerous to overdo it.garbage
- palimpsest2
You have it all wrong.
- Put less in. And do it slowly.Ianbolton
- Put more in and go fast.palimpsest