Panama Papers
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- scarabin0
so what happens now? these people are gonna be investigated and have to pay back taxes?
- they'll pay (minimal) fines that likely never make it into the tax system as their taxes would have.imbecile
- if thatimbecile
- Absolutely nothing apart from a few bit-players being given token jail time or 'removed from their position'. The real fuckers will escape and blowback.face_melter
- *anyface_melter
- It depends on each case if it was tax avoidance or tax evasion.ORAZAL
- Tax avoidance, just like skateboarding, is not a crime.ORAZAL
- What they are doing is technically legal, massively fucking shady but legal nonetheless. White collar crime - pays the most with the least risk.face_melter
- lol, like anything happens to rich people.Maaku
- lowimpakt1
politicians pushing austerity policies and introducing new taxes while evading tax themselves. .
- sickening really. Maybe the average Greek had a point?_niko
- 'Do as I say, not as I do...'detritus
- yep, it's fucking sad. US just passed inversion lawsdrake-von-drake
- see_thru0
There's a certain person I'd love to see come up on that list, held a pretty big job in the UK government that sounds like mime prinister.
- Rhyme Administer? The UK has a rhyme administer? fuckin coolkona
- funnily enough the company David Cameron's dad used for tax evasion was called Blairmorelowimpakt
- The name is taken from the family estate in the north of Scotland. But yeah, Cameron (snr and jnr) are grade-A fuckfaces.face_melter
- Spot on low...see_thru
- number one on my listkingsteven
- It wouldnt change a thing.robthelad
- _niko4
they even have a game out lol
- "Let's release the documents! No wait, the online game isn't finished yet..."IRNlun6
- ^ hadrake-von-drake
- The game actually thought me how to stash my billions. Thanks _nikoBeeswax
- IRNlun60
Something strange about this story. Tax havens are nothing new and the majority of this apparently massive leak is just emails. Seems like the story is more about the leak than any loosely implied illegal action.
- Even the name of the story is very hyperbolic.IRNlun6
- And apparently only $2bn in assets, that happen to link to Putin and his friends. This story feels very crafted.IRNlun6
- These papers were published on Sunday, yet every media outlet has a highly polished presentation?IRNlun6
- A bunch of different media groups were working together on ityuekit
- Continuity2
Meh. Like, really meh.
Not because I don't think this isn't scandalous in any way, I do.
The thing is everyone has known that the people at the top — politicians, business people, athletes, celebrities and so on — are crooked, exploitative, self-enriching cunts. If we didn't have the concrete proof before, the suspicion was so strong and so commonly found that it was de facto for all of us. Despite these strong (and well-founded) suspicions, it's not like people rose up en masse to overthrow the corruption and the ruling class, is it?
This leak will change nothing. It's just the confirmation of a long-held suspicion, and people will simply shrug their shoulders and say, 'Well, I was right', then carry on with whatever it was they were doing — all the while thinking there's nothing they can do, this is just how things go and no-one goes punished for it.
The WikiLeaks produced no results in the end, the NSA leaks barely caused a ripple after the initial outrage, and so on and so forth.
We're all so tired, beaten down and think we're all powerless that this will be a thing in the papers for a couple of weeks, there might be a couple of red faces, but nothing substantial or meaningful will come of it and it will die down and go away after the initial media blast.
Cynical? Fucking right I am.
- In other words: if people are expecting a Mr Robot-style result from this, they're sadly mistaken.Continuity
- Full disclosure: I'm not trying to be sanctimonious. I'm just as guilty of shoulder-shrugging apathy as the next guy. Just trying to make my way in life ...Continuity
- ... like everyone else.Continuity
- https://i.imgur.com/…ORAZAL
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- http://30.media.tumb…MrT
- nb-4
- detritus0
A take down by Western Governments - our security agencies are leveraging the Snowden Effect with a concerted campaign in cahoots (willingly or obliviously, who can say?) with international 'democratic' media to pull the rug from under Mr Putin and chums and probably with a long-eye toward meddling with the future of money.
They've chosen a first target that includes a few sacrifical western lambs to keep it all looking legit, but this is just the beginning in a long slog to maintain western hegemony, shit on Russia and othersuch state actors, and to shift currencies over to fully traceable, unlaunderable currency.
- I should've invested in gold a decade ago and gone to live in the mountains. I knew it.detritus
- I live in the mountains... Bring a bag next time, i'm short in gold nowOBBTKN
- I only have tinfoil these days. Not even a full roll. Although I've a draw full of crumpled hats made from the stuff.detritus
- *drawer, idiot.detritus
- Putin will be the least effected. Dont u think Russians didn't know how rich he was? This is a blow to "democratic" statesBeeswax
- detritus3
Regardless the root cause/purpose/intent of all this—
I am *very* glad to see that at least the idea or spirit of journalistic virtue is getting an inflation with this and the Snowden revelations.
It felt for a good 15 years there that Capital J Journalism was lying in the gutter with the crap beaten out of it by the internet and commercial pressures.
I hope this inspires our younger generations as I hope it inspires everyone who's become too accustomed to free media that there are perhaps things still worth sticking our hands in our pockets and actually paying for.
- Beeswax0
Pasting from reddit.
Hillary and Trump will be implicated. Cruz will be implicated. There is no way they are not. But the question is how and when. (ie, wouldn't be much use if it comes after 2018...)
now wikileaks are designing this leak so it falls right on election, obviously the media / status quo is trying very hard to hid this revelation, since practically everybody with money is using shell company.
It is also 2TB worth of names and companies that are designed specifically to hide stuff. A complete picture won't come out overnight.
Here is a thought:
somebody should ask Hillary point blank: have you ver use a shell company to receive money for the purpose to evade public and legal scrutiny?
(note that she already fails this question once, she has used private email to avoid public and legal scrutiny, and it blew up on her face.)
- all sources show this release has been 8+ months in the making, hence all the preparation https://www.youtube.…detritus
- What you're saying is quite thought provoking, though. We've important 'democratic decisions' coming up in the US & UK soon...detritus
- ...with the EU falling over itself to find some one or thing to blame for its woes.
Interesting times!detritus
- lowimpakt0
still though, poor people on benefits and refugees are to blame for our cash starved public services.
- dmay1
- kinda making it easy to imagine how his head will look like on a spike... http://panamapapers.…kingsteven
- GeorgesII0
Didn't I say 2016, will be the defining year,
also check the UNAOIL scandal,
- Hayoth0
Tax havens aren't illegal, but stealing your/a country's wealth through corruption is.
Putin has long been suspected of stealing billions but I want to know why other names aren't published?
At the end of the article is says "Mossack Fonseca says offshore companies are available worldwide and are used for a variety of legitimate purposes."
However, if you are a government that believes in wealth confiscation then this is a gold mine.
- drake-von-drake-1
Don't be surprised to find the Bush, Clinton oligarch in there somewhere.
- drake-von-drake-2
^ Yet, it seems that when we see recent "leaks" such as:
The IMF needing "an event" to leverage Germany into taking a haircut on Greek debt;
The hubris of the Hillary Clinton campaign funding. The Clinton Foundation's tax re-filings, tainted donations, diplomatic favors, curious State department approvals (Clinton business as usual), and
The Rich and Famous Financial Asset Obfuscation Network exposed.
...we are shocked and dismayed by the covert and overt corruption in the global financial system.