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- whatthefunk9
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#maganbq - haha the logic of this... Lets take a moment to honor the sacrifice of our brave citizens who lay their lives down to protect our liberties to drink, drive, etc********
- the scariest thing about this russian troll baiting shit is people are not smart enough to see the logical fallicies/motive involved********
- and how easily you can pied piper fools with nice slogans and design. maybe a misconception that human intelligence has increased in 5000 years helps promote********
- ignorance. a false sense security of sorts********
- it's not a logic puzzle, ffs, it's a satirical and powerful statement that collectively combines several opposing viewpoints on a real problem in this nationmonospaced
- kids are dying while assholes still argue that guns are not a problemmonospaced
- you, on the other hand, have provided no "logic" to counter this at all, except to say people are what, stupid for talking about it?monospaced
- The fact remains, school shootings are a problem, and nobody seems to give a fuck, especially those who defend the right to bear arms and assault riflesmonospaced
- If you don't see the problem, then it's YOU who is ignorant. This isn't a lie, or russian trolling.monospaced
- ^ Exactly what mono saidformed
- people being harassed for defending gun rights is also still a problem and nothing you send has any logic to contend that... haha********
- actually what i pointed out was a logical fallacy to the "powerful" statement. It is clearly false comparison. As I demonstrated above to show other biases.********
- even your defending "logic". Its sad that it has to be broken down like this grade school style********
- irrational to think childrens existence is merely acceptance for violence. we should honor the sacrifice of brave women who lay down and open vaginas********
- to be raped by male dicks. do it with fat people and cake shops if helping be fat is the evil of the day.********
- because it is stated doesn't mean there is any rational connection. logical fallacies try to build a false bridge.********
- or better yet. to help display the fallacy prove why its logical that a child chooses to sacrifice himself for gun rights generally speaking? im pretty sure we********
- know that to be untrue********
- and this is where logical fallacy as parody becomes a joke and herds on feelings. not even goosing fake reason. if you see all that than what is the logical********
- message trying to be said... is it as simple as saying mmm guns bad mmkay... which i think is exactly the point********
- and that is a stupid statement with absolutely 0 merit or power, just phrased fresh for what resonates,********
- and if you dont see this manipulation as said "russia" mainpulation well maybe youre just the cattle********
- man, that's a lot of rambling nonsense for something that a child can understand! I really hate the term, but "triggered" comes to mind...formed
- Seriously fucking triggered.monospaced
- oh yea totally triggered because I think you believe it to be a powerful statement. if you know its a dumb joke than I'd laugh. sometimes being triggered isnt********
- a irrational response to stimuli, but more of a moral imperative/ survival instinct when you see people being dumb that will have negative consequences for othe********
- rs. and trying to state im triggered is ad hominem to actually explaining why the message is powerful and not false comparisons. band wagon your russian trollin********
- type posts boys. You are can be the moral majority, a barbie doll sorority. Reason and rights mean little to you as pro-life, bible thumps you don't like********
- Stfu alreadymonospaced
- why cause it triggers you? see how well that works for discourse... sigh********
- you're calling people idiots because they see the irony in people arguing for guns, sending prayers, while children die in school? fuck off alreadymonospaced
- I guess you don't give a fuck about the life of innocent kids dying because some other kid has easy access to killing machines? you're fucked up dudemonospaced
- nothing about my response, or this post, is irrational, at allmonospaced
- haha wow. loaded much. i dont care about "innocent kids dying because some other kid has easy access to killing machines?" haha jeezus. what reality do u live********
- in. No i dont care about any innocent person dying because someone has access to "killing machines"... haha but that isnt the same as saying i dont care or********
- feel for victims of crime. Just means im smart enough not to group it all together irrationally. .. i do think you missed the fuckin joke of it and got baited********
- walk the logic through. look at it. We have a victim by someone with ill intent. Gun might make it easier but not having it doesnt prevent it********
- like a sad soccer mom who wants to ban alcohol or dancing for a dui or promiscuous sex. but simply to be free means we live with certain dangers********
- and unhinged social media fame killers will find a way or we will give all freedom for false security. And you know what benjamin said about that? Look at********
- xinjiang or even the Uk about control and the slow fear baited irrational sense of it. Also since you are city boy. Probably tough to imagine guns are much more********
- defense and support. city you have ranges, but you don't get out. You don't worry about tiggers or bears, don;t need snake shot. You also need to take your********
- culture into consideration. You're more about hunting the latest gadget/trend than an elk. Even my liberal LA sister cant not like the photo-op of shooting********
- shit with a barrett or "AR" styled rifle... oh and again dont be irrational and get baited emotionally to logical fallacy posts. fuck maybe they are more power********
- ful than i thought. Majority populism is like 80% fucked with differing percentages on both sides. Democrats did win the super majority...********
- but this does help me understand your types better. I think i project a hope of more clarity and reason than is there.give a little too much credence to my idea********
- of what common sense is. since clearly not common is far too broad a generalization these days.********
- Pretty strong.
- jaylarson1
Rudy Giuliani Plans Ukraine Trip to Push for Inquiries That Could Help Trump
“We’re not meddling in an election, we’re meddling in an investigation, which we have a right to do,” Mr. Giuliani said in an interview on Thursday...
- BonSeff2
LOL
- Those right yung gunz are all so triggered.tank02
- it's a "rich intellectual debate" if you are surrounded by ignorant fuckwadslowimpakt
- This Shapiro bozo is like gospel to a friend's mom. Apparently whatever he says is what she regurgitates with no second through whatsoever.mg33
- shapiro is such a cuntcolin_s
- My meathead cousin loves that guy - has tiny penis.mathinc
- Intellectual dark web master.PhanLo
- Calling Andrew Neil a Liberal is quite funny.PhanLo
- shapiro always play the victim... but isn't the right wing in power? haven't they been for decades? is he even aware of newscorp?inteliboy
- What cracked me up is Ben's assertion that the right debates nationalism v patriotism. They got nothin.BonSeff
- I.e. deflecting the white supremacy echo chamber. he got called out and it was glorious.BonSeff
- This really gives you a sense of what American conservatives look like to British conservativesyuekit
- So much of the American debate takes place within a bubble...all you need is an outsider asking a few basic questions for someone's worldview to melt down.yuekit
- British conservatives aren't as religious, they say they are christian, but don't really believe. American conservatives seem to really believe in a sky god.PhanLo
- skimmed. that kid doesn't seem to be incorrect on calling out shit, but clearly biased and non rational outside faith beliefs********
- and quite ignorant calling out bbc motives as entertainment not thinking his are no different. but the biggest concerning thing is who is this kid?********
- and is he some voice of something? is this one of those pewpewdie or asian toy kids who make a living off youtube?********
- still struggling with the media portrayal of significance of these kids because outside media I never hear a word.and think its cabin fever hype********
- or is news agencies finding no other way of operating besides resorting to lifting these people for ratings and ad revenue? i think that is the take away********
- which postman predicted expertly... unfortunately no fixes. just the destructive path********
- zaq9
- BonSeff3
- His comment to the host about making a quick buck was some serious projection.BonSeff
- the idea that shapiro is in ANY way intellectual is fucking absurd.lowimpakt
- The whole IDW crew are fucking absurdBonSeff
- watch the whole interview. this neil guy picks him apart step by step. epic!
https://www.youtube.…renderedred - so good! shall we say good byBonSeff
- utterly destroyed. superb.fadein11
- lol at claiming the BBC is left biased.fadein11
- "yes it was a dumb tweet"
I'm dying here lol. what a fucking weasel prick.fadein11 - 'Ben Shapiro couldn’t handle all of that BBC'PhanLo
- Shapiro's fanbase of skinny wrist/neck cels must be setting the Youtube comments alight with Christfire.PhanLo
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- https://i.imgur.com/…
https://i.imgur.com/…PhanLo
- i_monk11
- nice logicsted
- yupBonSeff
- Cash for kids, what an attitude!robotron3k
- PhanLo1
- I’m shocked I tell yaRamanisky2
- Grifters gonna griftRamanisky2
- that boat is what a million dollar buys? is that fake news or have boat prices blown up and cost a vet 1 arm and 2 legs?********
- This guys wall seems like a megachurch business model. Skim a little for himself, keep collecting money.
https://twitter.com/…PhanLo - That isn't the photo of the boat, ffs.monospaced
- ^ I think it is: https://twitter.com/…, unless there is another boat.wordssssss
- three outboard motors, 4 axel trailer... easily a million dollar boat.fooler
- Who knew...see_thru
- exactly fooler, people saying this isn't a million dollar boat have no clue how expensive outboard motors are alone.capn_ron
- deathboy says FAKE NEWS!monospaced
- deathboy needs to go to a boat show this year. prices are through the roof on boats.capn_ron
- haha serious! Well i'm not a boat man and I'd never spend that money, But i'd also never spend 25K on jewelry.********
- and here i was just making a joke about the only existing limb and boat in the picture. personally i thin anyone who donates money for their own selfish reasons********
- paid. People are suckers. this tesla, uber, unless their is absolute fraud, which i doubt crowdsourcing actually covers contractually, is a shrug and well ppl********
- are dumb. You don't do due diligence you cant ask for a mulligan. but the poetic justice is i bet this guy is right leaning went to war for self interests got********
- destroyed only being able to jerk left hand now, and turned it in his favor. kind of makes you want to smile about it. and technically MSM shoudl support him********
- sticking it to the "right wing." I think he will take it all easily . Good con.********
- If a con... I guess i shouldn't fall into that accepting the narrative vibe portrayed thing. No idea. But i still laugh at my own humor...********
- It is f*in' hilarious how much Trump's lackeys are suckers for anything. Trump's the epitome of a con and they are still lapping it up.formed
- there are stupid fucking retards who actually think this dumbfuck asshole is building a wall with their money .. .so fucking idiotic and so hatefulmonospaced
- and you're right deathboy, the wall is a con, and it always has been ... a con from the highest office in the nation ... a con that got him in the officemonospaced
- I'm just mad i didn't think of this gofundme idea before this guy. i would have bought QBN and done that QBN Fyre Festival for everyone. I would not build wallcapn_ron
- i think a big disconnect is the idea that the wall made it for him. and the idea of trump supporters. I don't support trump, and fuckin hell no on hillary.********
- trump won because he was preferable to hillary. the people donating do it like they kickstarted mash potatoes. just trend shit. a 5 dollar talk point/virtue********
- signal. and as far as cons go by politicians just look at obamacare (romneycare nationwide) almost all its sells were a lie********
- besides something like 10 million people who had no care get long line care now while everyone suffers uncontrollable costs********
- its why you don't vote for people cures to fears wether it be old age and ailments or terrorists and immigrants. those who peddle that shit are snake oil sells********
- men. The best types don't offer anything. Just freedom which of course means more fear. Because freedom is synonyms with fear. Means its all on you********
- People need to wake up to their fear and greed and how its peddled to them. Probably won;t though and tocqueville will say nailed it from his grave********
- and maybe it says something about the majority of populations/cultures that prefer to live in their cages like zoo animals, vs the wild with all the insecuriti********
- es that come with it. I think struggles are a necessary role in evolution and artificially taking them out ruins species********
- i bet you could pull in some decent change promising a better GOT 8th season rewrite though.********
- a lot of people voted because of a promised wall, which Trump still talks about, and which is still a con in the sense that it will never happenmonospaced
- People who want a wall are those who live in fear and greed, and prefer a culture caged in like animals. That's what a wall promises.monospaced
- mono by "a lot" voted for a wall we know there really is no data. Your view vs mine. But i see dont think a lot voted for that. But********
- I think more liked the signaling. As far as walls go you remember that dinner with andre movie? and the scene talking of willingly walling oneself in********
- in NY. Walls are interesting things. And i do agree fear and protectionism interest go hand in hand with walls********
- and I won't neglect peoples self interests. See it all over the EU. Hell I feel it with people leaving the CA hell in droves coming here and buying up assets an********
- driving prices trying to push their views (which didnt work well for them) on locals. That change does suck. Or even foreign investment in CA pushing people********
- here. i understand the resentment. I understand the reasons and part of politics is to stabalize things because it is not a completely open and free system.********
- A wall seems silly, but border protection is necessary and rules need to be followed. I don't think a wall will ever be built. I also not sure the talk is smart********
- Think rent control, when ever such things discussed you see jumps in rent, which you could see with border jumpers.********
- I think few people really cared about the wall outside arizona and texas********
- ********1
pretty brief for the history involved and broad pattern recognition, but i think it works. especially considering the on the nose naming. but a lot of backlinks for source which is nice.
- That old British announcer that was interviewing Ben Shapiro thought the Green New Deal was a lovely idea just because it was an idea...robotron3k
- no he didn'tfadein11
- Robo? Reference to my comment on that or something else?********
- Yeah he did, in the video below that Bonseff posted, the interviewee thought AOCs green new idea was better than no idea.robotron3k
- ^ common "gotcha" fail -- often in the form of, 'well, what's your idea then?'Gnash
- you guys lol.fadein11
- at no point did he say it was "a lovely idea", the point being made was that Ben and those of his ilk don't seem to offer an alternative, just attack those whofadein11
- do. Watch again, it's pretty fucking clear :)fadein11
- ^ common "gotcha" fail -- often in the form of, 'well, what's your idea then?'Gnash
- "at no point did he say it was a lovely idea"
I'm talking to robo gnash, but glad you came back to check haha.fadein11 - you're autistic aren't ya?Gnash
- These cons really need to up their PR game. When a fellow con and Murdoch sidekick can't even abide you it may be time to stop doing live TV.fadein11
- jmckinno7
- Nothin's changedjmckinno
- not for the better, anywayscruffics
- Upvoted. But! Bling bling around his neck and on his wrists & fingers could maybe help a couple starving people?Krassy
- Lol hypocrite. Gimme help, gimme, gimme, gimme...robotron3k
- I wonder how Jayz feels about paying 80% taxes...robotron3k
- lowimpakt3
there's something about those alabama senators that made laws where a rapist is punished less severely than a doctor performing an abortion on a woman that has been raped.
I can't quite put my finger on it?
- why worry about the threat of Sharia Law when you can create your ownFax_Benson
- hmm what is the maximum rape laws vs doc abortion laws? Im agaisnt anti-abortion but cant help but think this might be painted in correctly.********
- Must be the ties.********
- Half of them probably fuck little boys. While the other half would gladly jerk off Donald Trump while reciting the Lord's Prayer.BusterBoy
- buster what motivates you to say such things?********
- Revulsion.BusterBoy
- tony blair? dead centre top rowBluejam
- hahafadein11
- Rape sentences aren't as severe as this anti-abortion law wants to be.monospaced
- #maganbq
- politicians man... just look at those fuckers.inteliboy
- Fax_Benson-3
- Lol. Just thankfully not through incest or rape.PhanLo
- Shoulda stayed in your old man's ballbagFax_Benson
- Eh?PhanLo
- lolGnash
- Ramanisky21
Pure unadulterated horror.
- lol ooops wrong thread ...
still relevant though.Ramanisky2 - The bureaucratic allegiance to state hierarchy (if I'm saying that the right way) was as gripping as the tragedy itself.mg33
- And I'm interested to know if some of the politicians opinions were based more in Russian superiority (ex: impossible that a Russian reactor could explode)mg33
- Or if they were just preemptively in denial to cover their own asses as things went higher up the chain of command.mg33
- lol ooops wrong thread ...
- allthethings0
Elizabeth Warren Deserves Your Undivided Attention
Drew Magary on the Massachusetts senator who's lapping the democratic field ideas-wise.
- The author's previous story, "Reusable shopping bags: Get over it!"robotron3k
- haha look at most of them. hes like a liberal alex jones https://www.gq.com/c…********
- sucks because he probably makes more money than me writing this trash********
- yes, and he probably has a good retirement account, 401K and investments too, guaranteeing his happy life as a senior citizenmonospaced
- haha well i wouldn't count those eggs. Almost all policy you support mono leads to distribution. The top 10% hardly can foot the bill********
- hell why should a person with a million in retirement deserve it over someone with nothing?! be a tax on all accounts to pay for those without********
- lol less is more********
- anyone with money in their retirement deserves it because they earned it, of coursemonospaced
- has nothing to do with anyone else, or distribution, or the 10% footing a bill (lol wut?)monospaced
- Can you name a single policy I've shown support for here? Nope, you can't. Thanks.monospaced
- You supported obamacare right mono? how many policies do you support that rely on soaking the rich to fund those with less?********
- But glad you respect the 1% rights to all their money. Because they earned it... Probably more so than lesser people giving********
- those 1% simply access to the money with no idea how to turn it into anything. Its not like politicians are already calling on them to foot bills...********
- What will politicians plans be for so many insolvent pensions considering how they treat SS?********
- Supported obamacare? No, I had no say in that whatsoever.monospaced
- You obviously missed the joke, which is about your previous rants about how 401Ks are not a good way to plan for retirement. LOL. I have NOTHING to say aboutmonospaced
- Elizabeth Warren or Obama's policies, you confused little child. Cue your next 12-comment, nonsensical rant:monospaced
- you keep that retirement thing going. its exactly what they want and why the incentives are there to sucker people. you see it or you dont********
- whatthefunk7
- FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!! they're actually 49th.fooler
- And Mississippi is 48!!!! We made it illegal for our pregnant teens to drop out and it's paying off in spades!!!!kirshar12
- I joke because it's so dumb here....kirshar12
- First id question the standards of edu ranking involved. second the assumption that standard correlates directly to popular opinion********
- her view is merely opinion. up there with sushi sucks for some. so why post it? is she popular what is the motive?********
- all the while denying the whole "democracy"principle... that people who were popularly elected decide rules********
- im against anti-abortion but i also realize not being part of that state my views are more than worthless. Not my decision as i respect parents decisions********
- whatthefunk3
- This is more a practible issue to bad legislation. certain right blocked is there incentive?********
- i think the great logical argument on abortion would be to take culturally how we evaluate age. we dont think of something as alive until born.********
- my grandpa wasnt 101 plus 9 months. our culture predominately in the way we track life easily could be argued in abotioin up to birth neglecting the term********
- stuff. Be hard for a court to accept life on something no one counts as age or life.********
- but would challenge large acceptance of life to being after birth. The way we age and assign our age never count pre birth. Meaning culturally we didnt exist********
- and there is a based argument for lawyers to flaunt********
- This is more a practible issue to bad legislation. certain right blocked is there incentive?
- renderedred0
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mis…
Missouri passes "one of the strongest" abortion bills yet in U.S.
- It's a fucking war on freedom. The GOP, via Trumptards, is methodically destroying America.formed
- abortion laws are small fry freedoms compared to stuff like obamacare. state around alabama should setup abortion clinics right past state lines********
- but a freedom nonetheless. personally im all about termination up to a ~year after birth. Some complications or bad genetics shouldn't be a life sentence.********
- and hard for a one year old have rights when not much more aware of them as a cow or other livestock********
- :)********
- This bill will only be passed if Roe v Wade is overturned on a federa level, which will never happen. Ever. Just money and time being wasted by assholes.monospaced
- ok i get the political hype now. the right vs left. and fear of case which is largely irrelevant based on state rides and fuctions********
- but besides posturing is not a big deal********
- it's a big deal if Roe v Wade is overturned, not sure why you'd say it isn't ... MOST of the country wants abortion laws to stay as they are, btwmonospaced
- ********-5
The thing about abortion law is when talking about it there isn't much discussion involved on popular ideas of its. Specifically when does a fetus/child gain the moral rights we specify by law for humans. The law is pretty subjective regarding rights. Children don't have the same right's as adults, and different rights for those not based on age but guardianship. Different cultures different age rights all around.
What should be acceptable? Chime in on base and special cases on the notes. Lets see if we get disapproval of ideas amongst supporters of abortion.
Im a bit old school in and animalistic in the nature of it. Terms, years, are all bit arbitrary amongst the unaware, but even in society there are those who are a certain age and yet still unaware... It's a tough one. Our moral rights are largely made up based on certain rules and criteria, but at the end of the day many things fall into a gray area were things are not so black and white as such subjects of the bill of rights (which also is widely still contested on perception and persepective)
Considering it hardly effects society I'm far more open to parents choices with less lines in the sand. Also not a huge priority for me on gov rulings. I think cutting funding of planned parenthood with the large lobbying base and allowing over the counter prescriptions (planned parenthood doesnt like). I think that is a bigger thing that is worth getting behind for majority of people and "rights" and responsibility. Let idiots in alabama have their way. Fund clinics on the border at a profit. Shits like fireworks on reservations. all new kinds of markets which can still serve the people. It's a shame but society is somewhat of a compromise on deciding the grays areas. This case a bit more like the inconvenience and tax of purchasing a silencer, or needing to load more clips at the range.
- See above. The wealthy will always be able to travel for abortions. Poor won't be able to. PP is for easy access and education, they are wonderful.formed
- They actually care about people. No idea what you are talking about with otc.formed
- Let the idiots in Alabama have their way? They don't actually represent the wholepopulation. They represent only a fraction of ultra-conservatives, not allwomenmonospaced
- Look it up formed. The more you know. https://reason.com/2…********
- And its not too expensive to leave a state. But yes it is regressive to the poor. As so many laws drafted are. Surprisingly more so on the side protecting them********
- Minimum wage laws ... pretty regressive.********
- And mono Alabama ppl voted and elected their officials. Its a sign of majority in alabama. That is democracy. Not always smart********
- as justice roberts said in ruling for obama care and choosing judicial preference.********
- Cant find the exact quote but love his precision. basically populism isnt always right and as much as we may disagree it was a democratically elected official.********
- so we stand by it for now, but if popular opinion changes so will our views. which on one had shows a certain acceptance, but also cowardice in upholding********
- other rule of law and respects to methods of taxation. Primarily a tax on abstainment which is still logically absurd.********
- also since you mentioned women. this would be a part of larger law that isn't black and white. Does the women always have the choice? Her body but what if********
- father denies it. Clearly many situations can be dreamt of to favor each, but that shows no clear axiom is in play. Such a thing shoudl be resolved in court********
- i think its better decided upon state by state, ignoring my own preferences.i dont live in alabama should i decide for them?********
- i live in nevada but should i let CA/NY decide rights for me? Being so arbitrary it has to be left to the states and people********
- Electing an official is not the same as voting for their policies down the line, regardless of what you think. Sorry it's not the same.monospaced
- If you were to poll the nation, it would be painfully obvious that only a small minority of people want a change in laws.monospaced
- No it is the same that is democracy. You do know how this shit works right? And nation polling is exactly my point as irrelevant. Should i force my gun rights********
- on NY even if constitutional if no one votes or any representative wants them? Not my place you give it up but dont ask others********
- The majority of Alabama is not in support of banning abortion. That is democracy gone wrong. It won’t pass btw.monospaced
- well will see. remember pemdulums swing in opposite directions. what you say can be said about obamacare and judicial restraint********
- irrelevantmonospaced
- colin_s5
the abortion laws aren't to actually prevent abortion, but to perpetuate a cycle of debt.
even if a poor child makes it through unyielding circumstances to, say, get in to college, short of having a full ride they're also going to be stuck paying for the loans - becoming a cog in a system of reliable consumption and profit for the people who are funding these sorts of laws.
if a child doesn't make it to college, they'll be service workers at best or populations for an increasingly privatized prison state, allowing again these right wingers to profit.
make no mistake: none of this is about life, or even caring one way or another about abortion. it's a perpetuation of economic servitude and the slave-fueled backbone of capitalism. these men are modern tyrants, thieves and pillagers and they will induce violence both existential and physical on the world until action beyond whining on television / the internet is taken to fight back.
(said action doesn't need to be the guillotine - it could be fiscal or union-oriented in abandoning certain sectors of capitalism, but even then there are towns with literally no option other than to work at and shop at a wal-mart. the guillotine will likely come once this tipping point is reached, though.)
- maybe that but definitely about controlling women and their bodies.lowimpakt
- @lowimpakt i think that's the line they draw for the debate to keep it about social mores and not long-term benefits.colin_s
- if you create a narrative around prejudice you can keep the debate opinion based and the people divided. immigration, gun reform, this.colin_s
- the same people will profit from all of it, and democrats are almost as complicit, legislators in general and the industries that fund them.colin_s
- tl:dr - kill poor people?Gnash
- or, more like make more of them ... for profit?monospaced
- Ah, so DEM = kill the poor, GOP = exploit the poor, I get it.Gnash
- Fantastic perspective colin_s. It's not all about this, but I certainly feel there's a decent undercurrent of these motivations.mg33
- @Gnash, dems aren't about killing the poor, they're about giving women the choice to abort a fetus, to avoid real problems and threatsmonospaced
- it's been shown already that restricting abortions contributes to the poverty base and causes a lot of unwanted children, a vicious cyclemonospaced
- I think another use for fighting over abortion is to win votes in politics. That's been proven time and time again.monospaced
- ah, ok. the 'choice' to kill the poor before they become bigger problemsGnash
- to be clear, i think this bill is ridiculous, and women should have autonomy over their own bodies. i just don't like the sugar coat. call it what it is.Gnash
- I feel like we're in agreement though. Yeah, the choice is often to ensure a better life for herself or the child. That much is obvious. Nobody likes doing it!monospaced
- the idea that aborting a fetus is killing a baby is totally debatable, too, and therefore pro choice isn't just sugar coatingmonospaced
- not a better life for the child, just not a life.Gnash
- it s debatable, but in semantics only. everybody knows what's actually happening.Gnash
- and you're right it sucks, but I do believe that the rhetoric around this issue leads many to believe that it's a benign procedure, when it's anything butGnash
- In many cases, it is to prevent a horrible, short, agonizing life for a child, actually. Some argue some life is better than none, but they are being subjectivemonospaced
- "what's actually happening" is a fetus is being terminated, and the debate is whether it is unethical. I wouldn't call it murder, though.monospaced
- I wouldn't even call an early term fetus a child yet. Until later term, it's mostly a parasite without proper brain function or consciousnessmonospaced
- Do you have children? If so, did you face the possibility of a real complication during pregnancy, or discuss abortion in a real scenario?monospaced
- i do have kids. plus i've lost one to a miscarriage, and lost another to an ectopic pregnancy.Gnash
- when you want them, they are anything but a brainless parasiteGnash
- however, my wife and I disagreed on whether to keep the pregnancy if test showed he/she had a condition like downs s.Gnash
- regardless, I don't believe that the majority of abortions are executed because of health complications.Gnash
- ha "it's a perpetuation of economic servitude and the slave-fueled backbone of capitalism"********
- You ever actually question voter base enslavement by certain parties?********
- to run people into the ground and offer solutions... its a great method. does original sin ring a bell?********
- And how would free enterprise allow certain people to be oppressed being free. most of what you describe seems to be derived of politics and left leaning********
- theres a lot you need to think about since its quite hypocritical in what i believe is what you would like to see as "end game"********
- another nonsensical, tangential rantmonospaced
- https://pbs.twimg.co…Gnash
