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- jasontroj0
Research Kit was the coolest thing they talked about yesterday.
I have MAJOR issues with the watch. They didn't give one reason that justifies the $350 price tag, let along a $10k one.
- did Pebble give a good reason to justify their $250 price tag? What about Samsung Gear's $350 tag?monospaced
- No. They are all frivolous tech as of right now.jasontroj
- yeahmonospaced
- fadein110
Yep - they still make badass computers - best laptops in the world. iMac is superb. Air superb. Phones - meh. ipad - in decline as original phablets and tablet competition ate into sales.
iWatch - WTF? doesn't solve any problem - will sell a lot initially but will be a short-term fad.
All imho of course. And I will probably have to eat my hat.
- CygnusZero40
Doesnt seem like anything apple does ends up being a short term fad. I originally thought tablets would die off really fast. Didnt see what the need for them was when people have laptops, but theyre still here all these years later, and they still sell, and they arent going anywhere anytime soon.
- CygnusZero40
People will lose their minds and snatch up the apple watch as fast as they can make them. Sales might slow down a bit next year, and then theyll put out a new one which is much better, and around and around in the apple cycle we go again. This will be going on for years, them making different styles, new colors, improved OS, etc...
- well, yeah, they will make it better each model, that's what companies do with their productsmonospaced
- My point was its highly unlikely it will be a fad and gone in a year.CygnusZero4
- I agree, i think the wearable market is just opening up for realmonospaced
- monospaced0
@ fadein11
Totally agree with a lot of what you wrote. I wouldn't say they make the "best" of anything, but many of their computers are "superb." The big sellers—iPhone/iPad—are now "meh" because they've been around and are basically ubiquitous, which is expected.
The Apple Watch being a "short-term" fad I do disagree with. I have a feeling that the wearable market is in its infancy and will be, in fact, the new mobile frontier. This current model, as well as the competitor's models, are all pretty clunky as first generation. I think it's like the tip of the iceberg and soon everyone will have something "smart" on their wrist. it won't happen overnight though, we're all waiting for smaller, better, faster and cheaper.
- wearable tech isn't a fad - but this particular product is I believe - what it offers is too close to the phone everyone carries already which does things better.fadein11
- which does things better.fadein11
- you think that Apple will discontinue the Watch soon, then, after the fad passes shortly?monospaced
- god knows - it will prob sell millions - what do I know.fadein11
- CygnusZero40
I think the biggest appeal aside from the apple logo on it will be for convenience. Especially people that like to exercise. It would be nicer to not have to pull a phone out of your pocket to check your stats. I use my phone when I go running or hiking. Would be nice to just look at my wrist, so its just a convenience thing. Of course its not NEEDED, but its a nice to have thing if you wont miss the money you spent on it. A lot of things in our lives arent really needed for survival.
- Who runs with a phone??formed
- Lotsa ppl yo.CygnusZero4
- i do every day.lvl_13
- fadein110
^ yep I know. Wearable tech will be huge. They are jumping in quite late again - but does this product kick its competition in the category up the arse like previous Apple late entries (oo-er)... ? I don't think so.
But as ever brand loyalty will win through. And after observing the genius of Apple marketing yet again y'day (that feed alongside the keynote was a tour de force of all round marketing prowess) I tend to think they deserve is. Noone does it like them. Its all just so sexy in comparison to the competition.
I hate a lot of their smug TV spots, and yhey need more youth presenting keynotes (Tim Cook is godawful) but they are winning me over again in general... There is no other computer make I would purchase and I may end up going all Apple again like I used to be - who knows. Love or hate - they are incredible as what they do (whatever that is)...- ^ was directed at monofadein11
- I hear ya. On the subject of them being late, I also disagree. Thy're not the "first" but the market is still new.monospaced
- fyoucher10
Yeh, agree with the fad. What a lot of people probably don't know is that it uses your iPhone for ANY web-connected services. Basically, it's saving you from taking your phone out of your pocket unless you're at home on your wifi network. I'll probably still get one though, because I'm lazy as shit and think it's a cool gadget.
Other than that, the other services it provides your iPhone already does or aren't really that necessary -- like drawing on your Watch with friends -- just a lot of dickbutts being drawn. With having to charge it every night, I can totally see this flopping until it gets significantly better unless something drastic happens with it. First gen though -- something to expect as with any new device or technology that doesn't serve a very specific purpose -- like the iPod whose purpose was music.
I like the idea of Apple Pay, just not sold on it yet. Not sure I want to give away my $190k plus benefits to hackers just yet.
- nb0
http://www.apple.com/watch/batte…
"All-day battery life is based on 18 hours with the following use: 90 time checks, 90 notifications, 45 minutes of app use, and a 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth, over the course of 18 hours."
People say that it does so much more than tell time! Aside from notifications, it looks like you can use apps for about 75minutes, maybe 1.5 hours, total, before it needs to be charged. This, of course, when the battery is still pretty new.
I foresee some complaints from users.
- Until version 2 which will have much better battery life, then time to re-buy it.CygnusZero4
- fadein110
Idea for kickstarter campaign - external iWatch batteries worn round the neck with a tiny cable going to the watch - the iLocket... no iSocket. oh dear. Solid gold iSocket locket attached to your iWatch for fashionistas on the go.
- I think it's called Apple Watch, not iWatchmonospaced
- oh god - you are right.fadein11
- formed0
Wearable will be huge. Once you can ditch the phone, the watch becomes far more attractive, but requiring it to link to the phone is silly (though, I'd guess, they look at that as a future upgrade, just like the larger phones are butchering the ipad sales, the watch will butcher the iphone market once it can be a standalone).
Who knows. If they can move the progress faster they'll still kill it. Wait 3 years to make a noticeable improvement and they'll slowly fade.
Fitness will be the ongoing market, but you can't have it linked to a phone! No one runs with a phone and I don't think many really want to mtn bike with a fragile $350 piece of glass and an iphone in your backpack (I don't mind the price as much as the size/fragility). I certainly would never workout with a big watch.
Fitbit and Microsoft are moving much more logically into those markets.
The real thing to watch will be the frenzy, then the die down to real market sales. Can Apple sustain growth with the watch? If not, they are chasing trivial (arguably) fashion accessories with gold macbooks and phones, which we are seeing the advantages Apple has had dwindle dramatically (S6 and M9 look like great phones).
Whatever happens, we are all in for some great tech products from all manufacturers.
- yurimon0
So if you had a choice between apple watch or starting a charity for helping homeless families. what would you do? we talking about 200-300 million in sales? diverted to something productive. not bad aye
- I take it you're going to be handing over $349 to a homeless charity on launch daymonospaced
- formed0
this what it always does, right? Runs up to announcement, then sells off?
- yup... and then when people realize they are selling, it goes back upmonospaced
- nb0
BUT CAN IT DO THIS?!?!?!?
- There will be an app for that.wagshaft
- that's a default I believemonospaced
- It was a joke, guys.nb
- CGN0
cutting edge
- what is that?
dasohr - thats what nerds draw on their watchesCygnusZero4
- from the key note lolCGN
- should've gone with dickbutt
dasohr
- what is that?
- stoplying0
Are the product videos for the watches done with animations, or is that shot? And Jony Ive needs to get out of the voice over biz.
