UK Elections
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- Fax_Benson0
I have to postal vote, so need to make a decision in the next couple of days. Was kind of hoping the forms would get lost in the post.
- commit unspeakable acts of violence on said form and upload the video footage to youtube.Bluejam
- Labour. You know it makes sense.HAYZ1LLLA
- I wish I didFax_Benson
- Bluejam0
- ...and David Jones is a basically a fucking twatBluejam
- With 30-40% (outer vs. inner London) of the population foreign-born (never mind x-generation) how is this incorrect?detritus
- The majority of it certainly isn't 'English'.detritus
- After living in Brixton and Walthamstow, I can safely say that's what makes London great.monoboy
- We'll have to agree to disagree there.detritus
- It's been fairly foreign since the empire and imperialism began, no?lowimpakt
- No, nor were many places within the Empire, to which the British emigrated only at the highest echelons (or as soldiers) and even then mostly temporarily.detritus
- There's a grand and wholly irreversible experiment at play here without the consent of the British people. I'm curious to see what happens in 20 years time.detritus
- Experiment? Globalisation is about economics and growth.monoboy
- If you want cheap stuff, you'll need cheap labour. Blame neoliberal economics and the people exploiting it. Not the migrants searching for work.monoboy
- I'm fairly sure I've done nothing but blame our ponz.. capital system ever since I started being concerned about The Experiment.detritus
- As a son of emigrant and, technically, a sort of immigrant myself, I don't blame these people. But that does not mean I condone their being here in such numbersdetritus
- and as someone who lives in Haringey - the inbred mongoloid cousin of Walthamstow and Brixton - i feel I'm well placed to question your enthusiasm.detritus
- Also - I'm not sure the Great British people consented to globalism either. Certainly not the bulk of workers outside London and other cosmopolitan centres.detritus
- Experiment. Mongoloid. You sound a bit bitter about having 'foreigners' in your midst despite having no affinity to the area yourself. I find that odd. Move?monoboy
- Or isn't that the essence of the issue? Foreigners move in, locals move out.monoboy
- Haha, 'mongoloid' was a joke about Haringey, not the people in it. And yes, after the fashion that CO2 emissions are an 'experiment', so too mass immigrationdetritus
- And if I do leave on a principle, how am I actually doing anything other than entrenching the principle that concerns me? A quandary.detritus
- Samesame Brexit - I disagree with it, so what.. I move to Europe? Perverse.detritus
- And btw, I'm no racist per se - 'someone of my best friends are foreign cunts' etc - but I do think percentages and projections really do sincere considerationdetritus
- Grr phone correctionsdetritus
- It's crazy to me that there's no real dialogue about this issue by the significant portion of the population who are uneasy with it. I see something wrong theredetritus
- The issue is economic. Always is. Poorer folks get left in poorer areas, often unsupported to make what they can of the situation.monoboy
- They form communities and rally together. The indigenous folks feel inundated and leave. To be replaced by more incomers.monoboy
- The Government do little and it often looks like they do more for incomers simply because they have greater immediate needs. (Language and culture barriers).monoboy
- What I find incredible, is that these 'poorer immigrants' often succeed greatly here, whilst the locals spiral further into poverty.monoboy
- For immigrants, the UK is about aptitude and opportunity whilst the locals think the world owes them a living simply because of where they were born.monoboy
- Racism is the last crutch of the feckless. But our highly competitive society has let a lot of people down. We could do more.monoboy
- Conversely, some of the highest UKIP voting areas have the least immigrants. Says it all.monoboy
- Oh and granted, there are some immigrants that also contribute fuck all. But the figures would suggest that it's mostly positive... http://www.independe…monoboy
- Bad link... http://www.independe…monoboy
- www.independent.co.u…...monoboy
- Sorry. QBN not posting correct links for some reason.monoboy
- microkorg0
See ya ....
http://www.independent.co.uk/new…Conservative candidate Craig Mackinlay charged over Tory election fraud investigation
The Crown Prosecution Service made its announcement just days before the country votes in a general election.
Wonder how many others will fall ......
- Fax_Benson0
Well, that's me voted. I'm first. Reap my whirlwind you fuckers.
- I feel dirty.Fax_Benson
- https://media.tenor.…Bluejam
- I voted postally weeks ago.HAYZ1LLLA
- ohFax_Benson
- sted3
simple.
- Gardener4
- political marketing sure has changedGnash
- http://www.wankersof…Gardener
- Love thisjmckinno
- HAYZ1LLLA0
Get out there guys and let Corbyn to sort this mess out.
- lololol
with diane the well-briefedhans_glib - whilst i'm not convinced on 'numbers' Abbott she has, thankfully, stepped down due to illness ...Bluejam
- hans_glib ... you're ...not ...
http://www.thecommen…Bluejam - so because i have no time for corbyn, that makes me a tory? ffs.
corbyn's an arse - a left wing version of trump. he couldn't sort out shit.hans_glib - let's be honest, they're all a pile of shite: self serving, expedient, visionless numptieshans_glib
- https://media.giphy.…
... was taking the pissBluejam - i mean, look at that greg knight vid a few posts down. christ on a bike...hans_glib
- however your comparison with Corbyn and Trump is way off ...
https://media.giphy.…Bluejam - Why is Corbyn an arse? Because he actually has some good, fair policies?Ianbolton
- Look. You have to be a realist. They are all CUNTS. Just this time one is a lot less of a cunt than the other. Give Labs another shot.HAYZ1LLLA
- The entire political system is corrupt. If you believe voting in one man within that system is really going to fix anything then you're living in the cloudsset
- ..and you've bought the theatre show.set
- Ah, so don't for any of them? I agree voting for a personality is the most ridiculous thing is this modern world of politics. Vote for me, I'm nice.Ianbolton
- The entire political system is bollox. Most would agree. But it's all we have right now comrade!HAYZ1LLLA
- surely it's the same as it's always been, just different competitors with a more varied way of promoting themselves.Ianbolton
- @ian - the media has more influence than ever but yep essentially the same clusterfuckfadein11
- I've been looking at the latest poll figures ... the Lib Dems really are a lost fucking cause, aren't they?Continuity
- Corbyn isn't capable of sorting anything out. His team are equally fanciful and incompetent imho, and it pains me to say this being no fan of the tories.dorfsman
- lololol
- monoboy1
Scenario time...
1. Tories scrape in due to a youth vote no show. Lots of derision. May gets knifed in the back. Boris takes over. Hard brexit. We are totally fucked. Unless you're loaded. Left-wing activists cause civil unrest.
2. Hung parliament. Tories get knocked back by everyone. We get a progressive alliance between SNP and Labour. No brexit. Toryland goes batshit crazy, calls for English independence. The lot. Right-wing nutters cause civil unrest.
3. Labour landslide. A big fuck you to the smug old cunts. Cue mass hysteria. Corbyn thinks he's Jesus until big business starts fucking off to the continent en masse thanks to Brexit. Right-wing nutters cause civil unrest.
IE. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But scenario 3 totally worth it to see the smile wiped off these ignorant, smug, nationalist pricks. They'd lose their shit completely.
- Isn't a Tory landslide much more likely than a Labour one? Some polls still have them 12 points ahead.yuekit
- Boris as PM. Like giving a foul-mouthed child a box of matches in a fireworks factory.face_melter
- Yup, but others have them just at 1 point. Hard to tell. I think scenario one is the most likely.monoboy
- I agree with all of this - shame number 3 is so unlikely. And yes even if he won the shitstorm to follow would be nearly as bad. No win situ.fadein11
- reality:
a government is elected. some people moan. everyone carries on. the usual muddle. it's the British Wayhans_glib - Normally yes but not this time I think. Simply because of the uncertainty around Brexit. It's a poisoned chalice.monoboy
- Alas @hans_glib it is v.different this timefadein11
- You're Scottish aren't you, monoboy?
If so — did you vote for independence in the referendum?detritus - No it's not, it's the same shower of cuntery revolving around the ever-so occasionally minimally-divergent middle. The more things change...detritus
- Yup. I voted yes. Simply because I felt it was in the best interests of Scotland to leave a Conservative dominated Westminster behind.monoboy
- If we had a more social democratic party in charge, I'd have voted no to independence. (I'm actually English but have lived in Scotland for years).monoboy
- Christ, you're about as muddled-up as I am, then. Can you perhaps concede that 'many' people in England voted Leave for non- cartoon-Nationalism reasons?detritus
- Perhaps ill-advisedly, but not necessarily 'nationalistically'? I just think it's unfair to lump all in disagreement as 'ignorant, smug nationalist pricks'detritus
- Absolutely. But the backdrop is mostly xenophobic amongst the older voter. I dislike nationalism but would vote yes for Scottish independence.monoboy
- For me, it's all about having a socially progressive outlook. Brexit was a reaction against that imo. Harking back to a bygone era that never existed.monoboy
- I do know some Tory progressives. But they tend to blame those that don't 'succeed in life' for being lazy. Forgetting, the privilege that brought them theirs.monoboy
- indeed.fadein11
- The Tory scum will probably scrape by due to the amount of brain dead people in the UK.Chimp
- yep - told who to vote for by newspapers. hilarious.fadein11
- Bluejam0
- too knackered after running through fields of wheat?Bluejam
- Because the Tories are only good for trotting out whatever alliterative soundbite it is their media managers have come up with for that week.detritus
- ...If I hear some Asperger's-ridden schlub mete out "COALITION OF CHAOS" again I'm going to rub my shit in someone's hair.detritus
- I don't much like Corbyn and Labour, but by fuck does he shit all over May by comparison whenever he's intervieweddetritus
- They should get May and Abbott in a mud-wrestling ring. I'd like to see that.
No, wait, WHAT AM I SAYING?detritus - perhaps we won't have that drink, thenhans_glib
- I'M OUTSIDE.detritus
- lolBluejam
- Jon Snow? Seriously?i_monk
- I watched some Frankie Boyle thing last night and was gladdened to hear my alliterative concerns repeated - moreso to learn the fields of wheat referencedetritus
- What a delusionally dull human May is.detritus
- microkorg-1
Popped into Ladbrokes at lunch and put a little bet on the election.
- Fax_Benson0
don't be fooled by Corbyn. He may talk about a new kind of politics, fair and inclusive, but he's proper old-school socialist. That means the ideology comes before everything else. The reason he has so many skeletons in the closet is because ANYTHING is justifiable if it's seen as ideologically pure. Because that ideology is 'left' - and therefore correct. Mcdonnell , Milne and Fisher are even more hardline. Sadly, 16 year olds and grime artists don't have a clue. And Corbyn couldn't give a shit about them. People like The Canary, Momentum thugs and and the SWP are closer to Corbyn's heart, and they're completely fucking mental.
They were never in this to get in to number 10. It's all about taking full control of Labour. This is another labour leadership contest.
- please expand on the skeletonsfadein11
- The Canary is fake news of the left. What connection does he have with them?
Interested here not attacking.fadein11 - so, are they worse or better than the Tories - in your professional opinion?Ianbolton
- How could they possibly be worse? whoever handles Brexit will be voted out next election. I kind of hope the witch is left with the mess. JC doesn't deserve it.fadein11
- And I am not a big JC disciple but I respect him. He's a decent bloke for a politician.fadein11
- Good thing that 16 year olds can't vote then.face_melter
- Try looking up his policies and stop repeating what you read in the media.Chimp
- I've seen the polices. They're great.Fax_Benson
- https://s-media-cach…microkorg
- Ianbolton1
I find it hilarious that all we've spoken about [politically] for most of my adult life is change and hope. But the biggest thing that will bring us the most change and affect us all beyond ways we'll never know is Brexit. And we all voted one way or the other, but we still don't know what we've voted for.
So yeah, vote for change guys!
- Chimp0
33 Reasons Not To Vote Conservative
- lowimpakt0
calling a general election in the middle of brexit negotiations.
brave move to be fair.