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@TBO Agreed. And likewise, it's also the positive credit they give him that bothers me.
I was talking to this cab driver the other day and he told me this amazing story about how he saved several children from a burning building in NYC awhile back. I told him he was a good man and should be proud of the accomplishment and his bravery.
He actually turned around and told me it was Jesus. That Jesus/God made him save the children. I told him he should give himself some credit, but he wouldn't hear it. He was adamant that something outside himself that takes the credit for the good he did, and he likened that to all the good in the world. I didn't get into it with him, but it did bother me, because so much good happens in this world that we should be proud of.
- aren't there science books ? and don't people challenge them as well?plash
- SCIENTISTS challenge science books all the time. They are updated every year.monospaced
- which is why i like the scientific process, if only religion had that. yet i recognize the differences between faith & relig,plash
- religion. this graphic isnt meant to prove anything. it's just meant to be smug.plash
We invented God so we could explain not yet understood scientific phenomena.
Later on, sleazy humans invented religion to control weak minded humans.
We invented Particle Physics so we could explain not yet understood scientific phenomena.
Later on, geeky humans proposed atheism to control weak minded humans.
"invented particle physics" ???
Science doesn't invent, it hypothesizes, tests, discovers, retests, rewrites, evolves and questions itself repeatedly. Particle physics exists and yes, it is used to explain things that were previous not understood. That is nothing like making up myths. Please.
The principles and empirical processes of discovery and demonstration considered characteristic of or necessary for scientific investigation, generally involving the observation of phenomena, the formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomena, experimentation to demonstrate the truth or falseness of the hypothesis, and a conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.
"We invented God so we could explain not yet understood scientific phenomena."
I think this is partially true, but I think there is something deep inside the brain that makes such religious instincts natural part of the human experience. It is not simply about "explanation" of phenomena. Perhaps it's tied into something with primates and the need for hierarchy in our social structure. Who knows. But I think the religious impulse is an honest, natural one in humans, although I agree with your larger point that it can be used for nefarious purposes.
I tend to think that the three big religions all have a shade of the truth - that Christianity teaches that our social role and our relationship to god should not be related; Buddhism teaches that we are not what our illusions about ourself tell us we are; and that Islam teaches that sometimes surrender to a greater power is the only logical response a finite human can have in an infinite universe.
These are not bad realizations. What people do to believe in them to the exclusion of all other things is sad.
The need to believe is what kills, not god. The quest for certainty.
Science has no quest for certainty, as much as those who so vigorsly defend their faiths would like to believe. Science has a whole different set of dangers.
Religion could also be a manifestation of imagination.
Religion is spiritualism with infrastructure and a police force.
"That is nothing like making up myths. Please." Really?
Science today is controlled by large corporations wanting to make larger profits. You only have to look at the Oil industries negative lobbying and myth-making about alternatives to carbon based energies to see that. Science is no longer the bastion of truth however much you believe it is.
- you don't invent gravity or light, you study and document their properties. there is a differencealbums
- Your talking points are showing.TheBlueOne
- stop comparing incomparable concepts with quantifiable dataalbums
- Science controlled by major corps? Are you insane? Science is driven through universities and MINDS, dude.monospaced
- Seriously. You believe there are no agendas in science. No manipulation of results for financial gain.Morning_star
- No, I really don't! But I KNOW that there are for religions.monospaced
- Science terrifies people with no education in it, especially if they are borderline religious. It's a real threat, a palpable enemy.mikotondria3
- 'You are wrong, and we have proof', is all they hear.
And they're right.mikotondria3
There's a theory that the religious instinct became common through natural selection. Belief in God gave humans more confidence/ likelihood of survival.
controlling governments push religion so when things get bad they wont revolt but turn to religion for comfort.
Weakness breeds followers.
you are you'all just pissed at Christianity?
why attack christianity when there are plenty of other religions? is it just familiarization of the subject? im starting to read that some of you disagree with the organization's policies and not the values.
- who's angry? why are you projecting negative connotation to those in opposition to your beliefs? discreditably is a weak ployalbums
- discrediting is a weak ploy.albums
- look at the tone of the words; strong language.plash
- albums, read your own words. it sounds like you're a bit upset.plash
- you see what religion makes you do. stop. don't be aggressive. love each other.oey
- Hey Jesus was one cool motherfucker. His followers? Well...TheBlueOne
- nobody, NOBODY here singled out Christianity.monospaced
- TBO just did almost 4 post above,plash
- he was careful to NOT single out christianity... read FFS. He was generalizing on the 3 major onesmonospaced
- what are you so upset about?! i did ask a question or are you the only one who can talk here.plash