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- Horp4
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Bouncing off Jagara's thoughts about ai and commercial illustration in a previous post below...
I think it's already over. It's already killed that industry. It's tangential but feels relevant to say that I've fairly recently got to know somebody with *absolutely zero* experiemce in art, illustration, creative industries (literally not from any relatable world to image making) but she now uses ai to prompt up artwork that she sells as drop shipped items via Etsy and many ither places.
She's gone from knowing nothing at all but being curious, to creating ranges of prints, clothing brands, homeware brands, soft furnishing brands, and setting up online retail, retaining a team of helpers around the world to do her marketing, her social media, and to create websites with all the shopper stuff to order and pay.
She's been doing it for just two years as a side hustle but is now looking to quit her job to focus on it full time.
Everything is copyright free, and she doesn't need to know how to create any of the images. She just picks a theme, describes the vibe, and then chooses what she wants to add to her retail points.
I can look at it all and be sniffy, saying she isn't the actual artist, but that's pointless at this point now. After her day of work, with almost zero effort, she can generate 30 artworks and have them shown on product and available to order in a matter of a few hours.
To create just 1 artwork would take me 1 day, and it might not be any good, and people might not like it, and they might say "can that part be red and could that say something else?" and I'd have to it all again to comply.
This new situation re-separates art from commerce once more; a distinction blurred when Pear's Soap first commissioned an artist to paint them a portrait for use as an advertisement.
Now there is commercial image, made with appropriate economy for the task in hand, and there is art... valuable for being human made and one of a kind and purchased because it appeals to the buyer.
I can't help thinking that's okay, and is what has always happened.
Sure, I feel sad for all the commercial illustrators no longer able to rely on that as a career; but I saw the writing on the wall back in 2008 and got out. Sometimes it's necessary to accept that a career line has closed down and to seek out a new one.
My friend who I mentioned at the start of this post received a production sample of a range of kitchen glassware she's decided to do when I was at her house. It arrived Saturday lunchtime.
She had prompted up the designs a week earlier, sourced a factory to produce them, and then they sent her a vintage looking glass sippy cup with etched and coloured graphics on it. For free. Less than two weeks after she submitted her range design. It's exactly as per her visual. The product design, and the graphical branding/illustration.
It's immaculate. She's not spent a single penny getting to that point, and as of now 24 hours later that range is on Etsy and other places, and she's taking orders. The factory produce what she needs and send it out directly with her branding and packaging.
She does nothing.
How is anybody going to compete with that? With your quality? With your uniqueness? With your skill? With your training?
- It's all about ideation now. That's it. We can still own that domain, should we choose to. But we don't, because it's Wrong.Nairn
- Inspiring storynb
- I agree it's not inspiring for the creative community, but it's happening. It's am economic and commercial reality. Very little has true value in this paradigm.Horp
- My friend literally conjures up entire ranges, and factories around the world can produce them on demand. It's not just the creative community...Horp
- facing oblivion, it's mass production, marketing, retail, trade, distribution, mamagement... the labour market, the working class, the middle class...Horp
- all of it facing redundancy and oblivion. But if you want to start selling kites or light fittings or watches or pet accessories or vases, you can, instantly.Horp
- So AI slop goes irl mainstreamgrafician
- < this story is most probably an exception, no proof this will be the norm going forward, so can we chill?grafician
- This girl's real talent seems to be hustle and drive. Hope success comes to anyone putting in effort.BonSeff
- I think there are actually a lot of people like this if you look on sites like Etsy. The quality of the stuff is not that great but they are just reallyyuekit
- dedicated to marketing like BonSeff said. But there are so many different things people need design and illustration for and I'm not convinced everyone is goingyuekit
- to be using the same AI image generators.yuekit
- Thing is, even this is not safe. Soon you'll be able to ask an AI agent to all this for you. At that point why would anyone pay for a sippy cup on Etsy, ...skinny_puppy
- When they can get something even more personalized generated and produced by a team of agents. The only one winning in that world is the factory.skinny_puppy
- There will be likely be a backlash at some point and some people will come to value hand made things that cannot be produced in a factory.skinny_puppy
- its about about stylisation.. how can u bring the a.i to a point that it doesnt look like all the other a.i stuffneverscared
- i agree the factory will be even more superior... and that will create and anti-market for most...neverscared
- It seems to me that so is a step change in efficiency for an illustrator. The same illustrator that did one piece will now be expected to do 10 or 20 or 100.monNom
- He’ll be able to do it with the so tool. Guiding the style and the content and thinking. The end user will get a richer experience, and in more places.monNom
- Case in point, I stumbled into a documentary about a canal in Canada. - very niche. It featured what looked like ai map art. Animation. Historical illustrationsmonNom
- The production quality was far in excess of what would make sense for that content a few years ago. AI makes it possible for a small crew to make big things.monNom
- Curious to see her shop. But I disagree with you in that she does put in tons of work in managing marketing and production plus don’t forget the biggest_niko
- Thing which is her taste, she’s obviously able to create things in a style that is appealing and sells which is the biggest hurtle and her real talent._niko
- BusterBoy4
Signs your getting old?
Was at a party on Saturday night...there was a former TV presenter there....she's 64 fucking years old...and she was gorgeous!
Yeah, yeah...marychain vibes.
- jagara3
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Not making a novel point here, but...
I think in the very near future, I think for the vast majority of mainstream uses, most non-discerning people without knowledge and respect for art (most people) will just use AI instead of hiring an illustrator. Good AI stuff - at least in the eyes of most people - looks ranging from "fine" and "adequate" to "great".
And it's cheap or free.
"Hire and illustrator? Yeah, and let's hire a scribe to write out our emails, too. Jeez."
Saddening...
- It was amazing how quickly illustrators I know who did covers and for indie bands said their work just disappeared once AI got just about good enoughPhanLo
- I worked as a commercial illustrator from about 2003-2008, and in my experience it all started to die then, long before AI. The dominance of digital...Horp
- pocketable media dictated style rules that meant almost anyone could do a passable illustration. The arc of descent already existed in 2010.Horp
- It was a total failure on Apple devices, there is no commercial use for generative AI.grafician
- Trends change. Can't expect handrawn style that was trendy in the 90's to still be hot. Just as the flat minimalist characters with huge limbs are dying out.NBQ00
- AI can emulate and recycle what's been done but good illustrators who can innovate or have a very distinct style will still be successfulNBQ00
- @NBQ00 just talking about human illustrators, both analog and digital.jagara
- Gardener7
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I'm following the news of the earthquake in Asia and feel so sorry for the lovely people of Burma. I had a very memorable visit in the late 80's and never forgot their kindness and hospitality, it was my favourite of all the East Asian countries I travelled in.
- The ancient temple city of Pagan in particular was so beautiful, I still dream about it nearly 40 years later.Gardener
- Looks dope! Nice Brazil teePhanLo
- great tshirthans_glib
- ty, when I set off travelling I took several promo tee's from my old job working in a cinema - still have several nice posters including a rare Brazil oneGardener
- I kid you not, the old fella with my skinny ass was a tour guide for the Shwedagon in Rangoon and introduced himself as Bond, James Bond, lolGardener
- I kept a diary at the time too, lots were in code in case I ever had in confiscated at a border, with tales of debauch enough to put Midnight Express to shame!Gardener
- it confiscatedGardener
- I've been in Burma for less than 24 hours, but had one of the most fucked up experiences of my life.
Feel bad for people therezaq
- thumb_screws5
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Dating in your 40s is weird as fuck. Especially when you’ve not been in it for a couple decades.
- Good luck, brother (and have fun!!) <3PonyBoy
- Cheers pony.thumb_screws
- Catpower perfected itnb
- What age range are the women in and are they mostly divorced? Is it weird because of baggage or because they’re all into some kinky ass shit!_niko
- Might as well give up.NBQ00
- Anywhere from 30 to 45 yo. Been about a 50/50 split divorce. It’s been heaps of so far. So many into ethical non monogamy too.thumb_screws
- Fax_Benson8
Punches For:
People who make their horrible instant coffee with a spoon AND THEN put the spoon into the sugar bowl. Put the sugar in the mug first, with a clean spoon. Why would you not? Mental.
- renderedred16
Swiss Design
Switzerland’s New Passport is a Masterpiece of Precision, Technology, and Design
- Damn. That's fantastic work.mg33
- lovely ink layeringPonyBoy
- The result of a job when it is respected, clap, clap!
Good work.OBBTKN - This def stays.prophetone
- Project began in 2017 ...Irafis
- Fabulousmaquito
- That’s nothing compare to our new passportsGnash
- https://www.azuremag…Gnash
- Ours uses only the best clip art!Gnash
- pusherbot4
Signs your getting old?
https://www.nytimes.com/interact…
The Gen X Career Meltdown
It was nice of the Times to include all the ads for luxury brands in this article, so the gen x cynics can feel at home.
- Yikes, good news kids (*rolls eyes sarcastically)prophetone
- Just breathhhhe... and watch the Reality Bites trailer https://www.youtube.…prophetone
- stoplying8
Signs your getting old?
I'm taking my 12 year old into the city tonight to see his first concert - a PG rapper called Connor Price. My son discovered him on youtube shorts I think and has played me a bunch of his tracks. My first show was U2 Joshua Tree in the spring of 1987. That's a long time ago.
- A good idea as an entertainer to target the kids n tweens audience who are still on the safe side of the fence https://www.youtube.…prophetone
- I bet his shows sell outprophetone
- my son and I went to see The Australian Pink Floyd Experience together when he was about the same age :) He's 19 now and goes to see shows all the timeexador1
- my first show was around 87 as well.. David Lee Roth if I recall correctly lol...exador1
- BTW embrace this time because next week they'll suddenly be 18 and you'll be taking them to a Ty Segall concert like I did w/ mine a few weeks agoprophetone
- Run DMC in 1988 was first gig for me. Amazing! Supported by Derek B.sab
- Awesome night! It's nice to hear a positive dude just rappin these silly little jams, no guns, drugs, champagne, dumb shit. My kid had a blast!stoplying
- _niko2
- anyone else hear Nancy Sinatra in this pic lol_niko
- me hear it long timefooler
- Too beaucoup timefuturefood
- Is the Asia pacific theatre on 5th avenue?sab
- stole his camera .. afai remember...neverscared
- mg330
Signs your getting old?
I've had a suspicious bump of skin next to my left nostril since late January. Thought it was a zit - still get them occasionally as an adult but Welbutrin for anxiety has been a magic pill to almost completely put a stop to any acne I'd get.
It's not gone away, getting it looked at in early April with my dermatologist, who I do yearly mole screenings with already. Worried a bit because it looks suspiciously like Squamous Cell Carcinoma, and the Internet is full of photos of what the surgery aftermath is like for that.
Any of you dealt with any skin cancer worries yet? I have 50+ moles around my body so my dermatologist has always had me in that high-risk category. I wish I could go back in time and tell my young college self "just because the apartment complex you live in comes with a free tanning bed membership doesn't mean you should use it." I made very few bad decisions when I was younger but doing that crap was the top of the list.
- hope it's all just a scare...hans_glib
- Hope it's not serious, stay positive.OBBTKN
- Thanks, trying not to freak out but just anxious.mg33
- I had one on my cheek. Dr took a chunk of it for a biopsy and it was negative. I just have a tiny scar where the bump used to be. Its hardly noticeable now.fooler
- I have one behind my eyeball (yeah WTH), doctor found out last year. I have to get it checked every year, and if it's bigger...lajj
- They gonna have to remove it. Modern medecine is awesome. And free. GO Canadalajj
- mantrakid12
making beats
Some bullshit but im really digging this road im on.
- Dope. Love the discordant bits especially.mort_
- +1prophetone
- Feels like late night walking through London (never been) after the clubs close. I really like it!mg33
- excellent!renderedred
- thanks homies!mantrakid
- yeah keep going there's some great stuff therehans_glib
- go on mantrakidstoplying
- +1OBBTKN
- niceFax_Benson
- I see what’s happening here...
OP-XY flex!
Bastard.ideaist - i tried to hide it hahahamantrakid
- IT’S IN THE TITLE!!!
Lolz.
Jealous; ever mix on an OB-4 from them? I’ve not had that much fun with audio in some time!ideaist - haha didnt hide it well enough lol.
i had a synth hooked up to a OB-4 at a synth shop but i think i should have spent more time playing with the ob4!!!mantrakid - i didnt realize it was 'more than' a speaker!!!mantrakid
- Duuude, the “loop” / sample function is BANANAS! Still trying to justify the price of it to my wife and children.
Lolz. Nice work brother!ideaist
- MrT37
Dog of the Day
Farewell to Coco who's just left this crazy world behind at the age of 16 and a bit.
She loved frisbees, anything dairy and the ocean. She was always fearless, chucking herself into breaking waves on the kind of Australian beaches where tourists go missing.
RIP old girl x
- Lovely looking kelpie - running free with all the other doggos now. 16 is a very good run. RIPsausages
- ❤️PhanLo
- ❤️utopian
- ❤️milfhunter
- <3Akagiyama
- Hug(s).ideaist
- <3Gnash
- ❤️PonyBoy
- many, many hugs.thenohero
- <3renderedred
- https://www.rosstayl…renderedred
- Dogs bring out the best in me ❤️jagara
- ❤️ those eyes, RIPgarbage
- Aww. Beautiful photos.mort_
- wow, thank you all. This made MrsT's day too - tears of joy, straight from central casting!MrT
- ❤️Krassy
- <3slappy
- Sorry to read! Cheers to Coco T!sab
- Sorry to hear MrT. She sounds a lot like my black lab, and I can't imagine not having her in the waves.ShaneHolley
- looks like a wonderful dog. ❤️Calderone2000
- So sorry. What a beautiful pup.CyBrainX
- So sorry, I've been there too many times. They give 1000% love, then rip a hole in your heart. Worth it.davey_g
- i_monk0
ALIEN
Romulus was shit. There hasn't been a good Alien movie since 3.
- 3 wasn't good neither...pango
- Yeah, Romulus was awful.lemmy_k
- First half of Romulus was great.mort_
- Nah.i_monk
- I like Romulus.robthelad
- Didn’t mind Romulus but it felt more like a tv series_niko
- Yeah but the dad jokes were on point!stoplying
- lol, not shit at all but it's your opinion manNBQ00
- no. it's shit.pango
- I liked it. Definitely looking forward to the Alien: Earth series on HULU.Akagiyama
- barbie was better...neverscared
- Nairn3
Punches For:
I'm doing a boring long-cut job at work and don't have much to do otherwise, so have been watching shitty YouTubes and... cutting my nails. Somewhat idly, it seems, because I've not been paying attention and now I've cut them too fucking short and I HATE THAT FEELING. I'VE HATED THAT FEELING SINCE I WAS A KID AND MOTHER WOULD CUT THEM DOWN TO THE BONE AND RRRNGHHNNNNNGH, IT JUST FEELS WRONG.
It's like squeezing cotton wool for me, or what people who don't like nails down a chalkboard feel.
*inverts
- Chalkboard? What am I, a Yank?Nairn
- The pain of also not being able to grip things to open stuff too, hehePhanLo
- I'm just glad that i don't have to peel any fucking perspex wrap over the next few days, lolNairn
- Aah! As a kid pulling a nail off and the last bit doesn't want to, so you either yank it half way down your finger or leave it flapping like a fish hookFax_Benson
- I feel youOBBTKN
- Is there a more British term for blackboard?CyBrainX
- Eat some collagen - they'll grow back quickstoplying
